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    I've heard that water is dangerous if taken in large quantities. Best not to drink it.

    I also hear oxygen is flammable, we should ban it to stop the terrorists.
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    Well I guess a good example of this would be the MMR vaccine scare. One discredited but widely publicised study linking the MMR vaccine with autism was enough to scare many parents out of giving their kids the vaccine against all the medical advice. Despite the fact that even if the study wasn't nonsense putting your kids at risk of measles would still be worse.

    Of course, a more controversial example would be climate change, where a lot of people seem to be willing to dismiss the view of the broader scientific community in favour of a few fringe scientists who just happen to be telling them what they want to hear.

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    It's certainly worth investigating, as the case of smoking showed. But for now it appears to be a non-issue, and largely treated as such by scientists - though apparently, not by sensationalist writers of these kind of articles. No real news yet, so they make it.
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    Quite a few things that despite all logic associating the two have yet to be clinically proven. Clinically proving cell phones lead to increased risk of brain tumors would take a generation. Having microwaves that close to the brain probably isnt the best thing, but then it's for short periods. Now I'd like to see a study on constant use of blue tooths, microwaves that close to the brain for hours and hours on end is not a good thing. The article is a load of bull though, sensationalism for attention is all, I highly doubt the cancer risk of short term cellphone use is much at all.

    There will always be things in this world that no matter the lack of clinical studies on the topics I will firmly believe. For a very few clinical studies on even the importance of large amounts of protien while strength training. Yet all research and logic pointed to it.

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    Of course, a more controversial example would be climate change, where a lot of people seem to be willing to dismiss the view of the broader scientific community in favour of a few fringe scientists who just happen to be telling them what they want to hear.
    The Godwin is strong with you child.

    Also look in to the 100+ viruses found in the monkey pancreases used to grow most vaccines. Pay close attention SIV, v-79 iirc. The current mass used methods to create vaccines is hardly completely safe.
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    Xiahou, why are you upset? It all comes down to the way funding for studies is conducted. When her research period was up, and she had nothing, she had to start scrambling for something.

    But as far as idiocy masquerading as science, I'll see your brain-cancer and raise you in the cell-phone suit, this time with a bid of "hands-free".

    Every study that links cell-phone usage to higher risk of accidents shows a much stronger correlation to the diverted attention of the driver than the mobility reduction generated by holding a phone to one's ear.

    And yet, throughout the country, service providers such as AT&T Wireless and Verizon are buying themselves a law that will make them rich, by paying legislators to enact hands-free legislation. There is no evidence that using a hands-free device is any less dangerous than using a traditional mobile, yet here we are, passing laws that people have to buy bluetooth headsets (or wired, if you want to go low-tech).

    Meanwhile, it is still legal to shave, apply makeup, eat a cheeseburger or read the newspaper while driving, and I believe I saw all four just between driving to and from work yesterday.

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