Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Battle of Cannae 216 BC

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Formerly: SwedishFish Member KarlXII's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    San Diego, California, United States. Malmö/Gothenburg, Sweden. Cities of my ancestors and my favorite places to go!
    Posts
    1,496

    Default Battle of Cannae 216 BC

    2,224 years ago oppressed nation started fight for freedom.
    With mercenary versus legion and hope versus Swords they fought 3 wars
    Betrayed by nobles they did not surrender showing everyone how tough Hannibal can be
    Gloria Victus- glory for the defeated
    Cannae-2,224th anniversery.

    Happy 2,224th anniversery everyone. Onto the seriousness, with the huge losses suffered by Roman forces, is it possible Hannibal could very well have marched on Rome and ended the war in Carthaginian favor?

    (Thanks for the correct number, cutepuppy)
    Last edited by KarlXII; 08-02-2008 at 09:21.
    HOW ABOUT 'DEM VIKINGS
    -Martok

  2. #2
    Awaiting the Rapture Member rotorgun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Not in Kansas anymore Toto....
    Posts
    971

    Default Re: Battle of Cannae 216 BC

    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishFish View Post
    Onto the seriousness, with the huge losses suffered by Roman forces, is it possible Hannibal could very well have marched on Rome and ended the war in Carthaginian favor?
    Well to be honest, yes he could have indeed marched on Rome, but he couldn't very well have done much once he got there on account that he didn't have any siege equipment, nor anywhere near the numbers to invest the city. I think that his brother Mago or Hasdrubal, I can't remember which, was supposed to be bringing the siege equipment by sea, but was intercepted by the Romans. In such a case, I guess he didn't have sufficient engineers or patience to build new equipment. I think he was looking for a political settlement, something like terms or a conditional surrender from the Romans, figuring that a defeat such as Cannae would force such an outcome. Hannibal never really understood the determination of the Romans, a common mistake made by the likes of Napoleon and Hitler in underestimating the staying power of the Russians.

    Never underestimate the power of faith in warfare. As Napoleon said "The moral is to the physical as is three to one."
    Last edited by rotorgun; 08-02-2008 at 04:46.
    Rotorgun
    ...the general must neither be so undecided that he entirely distrusts himself, nor so obstinate as not to think that anyone can have a better idea...for such a man...is bound to make many costly mistakes
    Onasander

    Editing my posts due to poor typing and grammer is a way of life.

  3. #3
    Clan Takiyama Senior Member CBR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    4,408

    Default Re: Battle of Cannae 216 BC

    I doubt he could have. It's not like Rome was defenseless: it was walled city with a strong garrison and Hannibal also had to face the survivors that quickly had gathered into a couple of legions. He would not have had the manpower to both invest and besiege Rome while dealing with gathering supplies in hostile territory.

    By staying in southern Italy he could ensure that Roman allies would defect as a result of the battle. The problem was that the effect was not as big as he had hoped, so Rome did not become isolated.


    CBR

  4. #4

    Default Re: Battle of Cannae 216 BC

    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishFish View Post
    1,792 years ago oppressed nation started fight for freedom.
    With mercenary versus legion and hope versus Swords they fought 3 wars
    Betrayed by nobles they did not surrender showing everyone how tough Hannibal can be
    Gloria Victus- glory for the defeated
    Cannae-1,792nd anniversery.

    Happy 1,792nd anniversery everyone. Onto the seriousness, with the huge losses suffered by Roman forces, is it possible Hannibal could very well have marched on Rome and ended the war in Carthaginian favor?
    it should be 2224 years ago.
    Last edited by cutepuppy; 08-02-2008 at 08:58.

  5. #5
    Poll Smoker Senior Member CountArach's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    9,029

    Default Re: Battle of Cannae 216 BC

    I would hardly call Rome oppressed, especially when you consider that they were the ones who escalated the First Punic War.

    And no, Hannibal would not have been capable of marching on Rome. His army would not have been able to ensure a steady supply line for long enough to allow him to capture it, and it is unlikely that he had enough men to take Rome by force (Though cutting the aqueducts would certainly help).
    Last edited by CountArach; 08-02-2008 at 10:01.
    Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
    Quote Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
    Nothing established by violence and maintained by force, nothing that degrades humanity and is based on contempt for human personality, can endure.

  6. #6

    Wink Re: Battle of Cannae 216 BC

    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    I would hardly call Rome oppressed, especially when you consider that they were the ones who escalated the First Punic War.
    ... and the second, and the third, and the gallic genocide. And what have the romans ever done for us?

  7. #7
    Poll Smoker Senior Member CountArach's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    9,029

    Default Re: Battle of Cannae 216 BC

    Quote Originally Posted by cutepuppy View Post
    ... and the second, and the third, and the gallic genocide. And what have the romans ever done for us?
    While the Romans did cause a large part of the Second Punic War, they didn't escalate it with the use of force. The Third Punic War is undeniable.
    Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
    Quote Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
    Nothing established by violence and maintained by force, nothing that degrades humanity and is based on contempt for human personality, can endure.

  8. #8
    Member Member KrooK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Kraj skrzydlatych jeźdźców
    Posts
    1,083

    Default Re: Battle of Cannae 216 BC

    Yep fISH - and thats why Hannibal is honorable mentioned. Same like Warsaw Rising.
    Cannae was a great battle. But even after that victory Hannibal was not able to take Rome.
    Romans very fast prepared defense in the city and overcomed panic into population.
    Rome had strong garrison which could be supported by citizens whila Hannibal hadn't had too many men.
    John Thomas Gross - liar who want put on Poles responsibility for impassivity of American Jews during holocaust

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO