EB and the MTW2 heir system

**Balbor** · 08-21-2010, 02:08

so when it's time to get a faction heir, instead of just being told who it is you get to choose them?

**Paltmull** · 08-21-2010, 18:27

Originally Posted by Atilius

The next one. There is no mechanism for changing the current heir.

Ah, that's what I thought. Too bad. Still a lot better than nothing though.

**Atilius** · 08-21-2010, 18:37

Originally Posted by Balbor

so when it's time to get a faction heir, instead of just being told who it is you get to choose them?

No. We allow you to choose the character who will likely succeed the current faction heir.

**Balbor** · 08-21-2010, 18:55

oh i think i get it, is it a ancillaries that you can pass on to who ever you want or a selection similar to RTW?

**Atilius** · 08-21-2010, 23:22

No.

**Ludens** · 08-22-2010, 11:59

Originally Posted by Balbor

oh i think i get it, is it a ancillaries that you can pass on to who ever you want or a selection similar to RTW?

I haven't seen or used the script, but as I understand it: when the faction heir dies or becomes king, the engine makes the character with the most influence the new faction heir, regardless of family and other traits. The script EB plans to include allows you to designate a "heir" to the faction heir by giving that character a trait with an enormous influence bonus (presumably with non-influence penalties to counter this bonus). Whenever a new faction heir is selected, the script pops up to ask you to designate the new faction heir's successor. So no, you cannot do this at will: only when the faction heir dies or becomes king.

**bobbin** · 08-22-2010, 14:18

Originally Posted by Ludens

I haven't seen or used the script, but as I understand it: when the faction heir dies or becomes king, the engine makes the character with the most influence the new faction heir, regardless of family and other traits. The script EB plans to include allows you to designate a "heir" to the faction heir by giving that character a trait with an enormous influence bonus (presumably with non-influence penalties to counter this bonus). Whenever a new faction heir is selected, the script pops up to ask you to designate the new faction heir's successor. So no, you cannot do this at will: only when the faction heir dies or becomes king.

Almost, it's authority that controls who will be the next heir.

**seienchin** · 08-23-2010, 11:21

You mean all my 1 Authority kings in Medival II were chosen, because the other generals had even less?

Is it not tied to beeing a close relativ to the old king at all?

**SlickNicaG69** · 08-29-2010, 07:19

Well then, maybe the mod should be called, "Medieval Rome."

**Blxz** · 08-29-2010, 15:31

Authority...thats actually quite good because I don't think this stat affects anything until they actually become king (in which case the big bonus can be removed). Therefore We won't have super influence govenors for no reason. Nicely designed, although as bobbin said, its been around for a long time.

**Captain Trek** · 08-31-2010, 03:36

Authority...thats actually quite good because I don't think this stat affects anything until they actually become king (in which case the big bonus can be removed). Therefore We won't have super influence govenors for no reason. Nicely designed, although as bobbin said, its been around for a long time.

I too highly approve of this workaround... It will also work quite well for the reason that, if I recall correctly, authority traits were very hard to come by indeed, which might explain why so many players has problems with having their great FMs skipped over for their crappy ones, because the crappy ones happened to have an authority boosting trait that the great FMs did not, or else the crappy and great FMs all had the same authority rating and the AI randomly selected the shittiest one or something like that...

I personally will wonder how this will work with the Teutonic Order family tree system that I believe has been said will be used for certain factions. You see the Teutons don't have a "family tree" in the traditional sense...

**Blxz** · 08-31-2010, 06:12

Originally Posted by Captain Trek

I personally will wonder how this will work with the Teutonic Order family tree system that I believe has been said will be used for certain factions. You see the Teutons don't have a "family tree" in the traditional sense...

I think that the new Hochmeister (or whatever) is selected from the dude with the highest command. So I know exactly how that will work then... Which means we need to use a +10 command stars trait to select the next general =P (woot!!!)