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    Default Why aren't the rebels in my games more agressive?

    Since I've stared playing EB (on both RTW and Alx exes), I've noticed how inactive rebel armies tend to be... Now, coming from vanilla Rome, I'm used to this, but based on what EB players have said on here, the rebels (I can't spell their in-game name) should in fact be rather agressive (besieging cities and stuff) and indeed, playing my new Casse campaign I just had a small 1/5 stack rebel army besiege one of my settlements (defended by a FM and a unit of lugoae), but this is the first time I've had this happen in EB, even though I've had far larger rebel armies spawn right outside (close enough to besiege the town without even moving) even less well defended cities (even in this very same Casse campaign), who have just stood around for a half-dozen seasons picking their noses untill my main army could come along and wipe them out...

    So, what's going on here? Are the rebels in EB meant to be agressive and if so, what's wrong with them in my game? Or, are they not actually meant to be that agressive after all?

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    Default Re: Why aren't the rebels in my games more agressive?

    I've heard BI improves the situation a little and ALEX even more. Don't quote me on that though, I have niether. From what you say I take it ALEX isn't helping much.

    From what I understand, increasing campaign levels to hard or very hard makes the AI more aggressive. Ultimately however, the sad truth is that the AI sucks and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.

    It's the same AI that I've found in vanilla and other mods.
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    Default Re: Why aren't the rebels in my games more agressive?

    And I'd be fine with that, except that other members of this forum have described what the rebel armies in their games do, and they sound significantly more agressive than the rebels in my games...

    Maybe the rebels in their games aren't as agressive as I've lead myself ot believe... Or maybe they're just lucky... 'Cause after all, it is the same AI... It's hard-coded...

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    Default Re: Why aren't the rebels in my games more agressive?

    If it's any consolation, my AI is just as bad as yours. The sovereignties are not much better than the Rebs.
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    Default Re: Why aren't the rebels in my games more agressive?

    The main reason why the rebels are inactive is probably our imprisoning the garrison. Normally the AI will roam around and have only 1-2 units in the city, so in order to have decent garrisons, we have immobilized all starting generals.

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    Default Re: Why aren't the rebels in my games more agressive?

    Still VH/M will likely see the Rebels marching (the guys somewhere in the mountains) at Kophen should you attack the city... I've had times I (blisfully unaware) had to call my Baktrian army back to save the city... <_<

    Also a certain guy called Alikibiades can do quite nasty stuff; VH/M again I saw him close-to-obliterating the Pontic kingdom once, trashing every army sent at him. Full merc army, you know Thraikioi Peltastai, Merc Phalangitai; even some Tindanotae. Of course, I smiled at the sight of that: it suited me fine that the rather disloyal Pontic kingdom was fully occupied with their futile attempts at removint them... which gave me the opportunity to consolidate my Seleukid holdings in the region! What I'm saying given the right settings the AI can actually be pretty mean at times...
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    Default Re: Why aren't the rebels in my games more agressive?

    Quote Originally Posted by bovi View Post
    The main reason why the rebels are inactive is probably our imprisoning the garrison. Normally the AI will roam around and have only 1-2 units in the city, so in order to have decent garrisons, we have immobilized all starting generals.
    I was actually refering to the "brigand" armies than spawn randomly as play progresses...

    Quote Originally Posted by DaCrAzYmOfO View Post
    Ive knoticed that rebels only attack cities in vh campaign diffuculty, but will attack you if you get ambushed in any difficulty (duh)
    Wrong, actually... The Casse campaign I mention at the start of this thread is only H/M, and yet a 1/5 stack rebel army besieged one of my cities (and got royally schooled when I brought a couple more units in to assist)... Indeed I think it's the only time I've seen it happen (and brigand army attacking a city) thus far...

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