OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[TinCow]

This is the OOC Thread for Last of the Romans. This thread is designed to be a simple chatroom for LotR players. No important information will ever be posted in here. This thread does not count as a "public thread" for the purposes of the LotR rules, so any oath swearing, oath breaking, or wills which are posted in here will not be considered valid. No information posted in this thread will be considered as binding on the Megas Logothetes. In short, this thread has no official relationship to LotR in any capacity. It is simply a chatroom.

I know I said I wouldn't close these things all the time like econ21 did, but the old thread was getting absurdly large. Ah, I love the smell of a fresh, new thread. Let's celebrate by starting fresh, new discussions in it. Anyone feel like calculating whether we're exceeding the KOTR posting volume?

[Privateerkev]

[_Tristan_]

WOOT !! WOOT !!

I got the last post before closure...

[Warmaster Horus]

And predictably PK got the first post here... Who'd have guessed?
Good thinking TC, 58 pages is a bit much for one thread.

[Privateerkev]

Look at the first page of the first LotR OOC thread. ;)

[AussieGiant]

Hey there WM.

Good to see you here and in the game.

[AussieGiant]

Hey there WM.

Good to see you here and in the game.

EDIT

*Crap*

[Ibn-Khaldun]

There is one little matter however. Mak got a MotH offer. I will send an IC PM to the recipient. At the very least, it should provide for some entertainment...

PK please tell.. please.. please !!!!

Don't tell that it's the Caesar?

[_Tristan_]

My bet is the Caesar

[Privateerkev]

PK please tell.. please.. please !!!!

Don't tell that it's the Caesar?

Almost as bad. It's Kantakouzinos...



I love LotR...

*edit*

The Caesar's 4 "child slots" are full now. Kosmas, 2 natural sons, and now Kantakouzinos.

*edit2*

Please do not react to this IC yet until Kag and I can have a PM exchange.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

LOL..

This could be interesting to see when Makedonios calls Ioannis(Why is there so many Ioannises??? ) a dad!!

[Privateerkev]

LOL..

This could be interesting to see when Makedonios calls Ioannis(Why is there so many Ioannises??? ) a dad!!

If, and that seems to be a pretty big if, it gets accepted, it will be along the lines of Kosmas and Methodios where one sponsors the other.

[Dafuge]

I would call it a bit bigger than BIG .

[_Tristan_]

I'd like to put an option on Methodios' son Ioannis, in case things go bad in Alexandria...

[Privateerkev]

I'd like to put an option on Methodios' son Ioannis, in case things go bad in Alexandria...

Is that like a stock option? Would you be willing to "sell short" on that option?

[_Tristan_]

To answer WH question about Methodios "punishment" in the Megas thread, I have the battle report ready but as it is tied with a story using Kosmas (Zim's character), I'd like to check it out with him first...

[Ituralde]

I want to thank TinCow for clearing up all those things. I think everybody should have a better understanding of how things work now. It was never my intention to harm anybody with my interpretation of the rules, I hope it didn't come across that way. I am, as ever just curious to learn more about the game rules. The clearer the situation is the easier it is for me to act within the boundaries presented and know where I stand!

I'm glad we settled all of this OOC and although I now also bicker about a bit IC, I just want to let you know PK that from an OOC point everything is clarified and fine for me!

Happy gaming everybody!

Cheers!

Ituralde

[Privateerkev]

I want to thank TinCow for clearing up all those things. I think everybody should have a better understanding of how things work now. It was never my intention to harm anybody with my interpretation of the rules, I hope it didn't come across that way. I am, as ever just curious to learn more about the game rules. The clearer the situation is the easier it is for me to act within the boundaries presented and know where I stand!

I'm glad we settled all of this OOC and although I now also bicker about a bit IC, I just want to let you know PK that from an OOC point everything is clarified and fine for me!

Happy gaming everybody!

Cheers!

Ituralde

Everyone reads the rules differently so it's helpful to have others bring up questions on issues. Even if you yourself think you know the answer. Because you simply might not think of something a certain way.

Here is to IC bickering!

[TinCow]

It was never my intention to harm anybody with my interpretation of the rules, I hope it didn't come across that way. I am, as ever just curious to learn more about the game rules. The clearer the situation is the easier it is for me to act within the boundaries presented and know where I stand!

This is why I am going to write the Exarch guide and the Code of Conduct. The Rules needs to be enforced, but that can't realistically be done unless people understand exactly what the rules are. I understand them just fine, but I wrote them and thought about them for a good 6 months before we even started playing. No one else should ever be expected to know the rules as well as I do. It is thus my responsibility to make sure that they are explained properly in a manner that can be understood by all. This is a complex game and I have worked, and will continue to work, to make it as easy to play as possible.

I appreciate you all being patient with the constant rule issues that pop up. It's a work in progress and this is bound to continue for some time to come. I hope there's still some enjoyment being had underneath all of the confusion.

[AussieGiant]

Love your work TC!!

The gift of explanation is overpowering in you!!!

[AussieGiant]

And does anyone know where the Emperor and Patriarch are...I need to have a chat now I'm not strapped to a chair like I'm in a James Bond film!!

[_Tristan_]

Though IC Methodios will face anything thrown his way, I want everybody to know that OOC I sacked Alexandria both for public order and to raise our treasury...

If only Zim would come online and give me his go with the story, perhaps judgment would be less fierce

Now that said, criticize and punish all you like...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Actually.. I would have done the same thing if I would have seen that public order is in red

[AussieGiant]

Though IC Methodios will face anything thrown his way, I want everybody to know that OOC I sacked Alexandria both for public order and to raise our treasury...

Well that's all just dandy in theoretical OOC world. Unfortunately Apionnas doesn't get to live there and therefore will never take that into consideration.

I’m not trying to sound harsh but this type of disclosure is a little confusing.

[_Tristan_]

What I'm getting at AG, is that I knew full well what might befell Methodios when I chose this option but the mechanics of the game "almost" forced my hand...

If this diclosure sounds confusing to you, just keep on berating Methodios for what he did...

[AussieGiant]

What I'm getting at AG, is that I knew full well what might befell Methodios when I chose this option but the mechanics of the game "almost" forced my hand...

If this diclosure sounds confusing to you, just keep on berating Methodios for what he did...

Alright thanks for the information.

I'm not sure how a game forces your hand...but I'm prepared to indulge in the "concept" for arguments sake.

I'll carry on as instructed.

[pevergreen]

Still waiting for that contact NN.

Seems I'm part of the kommendoukishoodydookywoogy.

Reminds me of Peter Van Danhoogenboogentroogendoogenboogen.

[Privateerkev]

Though IC Methodios will face anything thrown his way, I want everybody to know that OOC I sacked Alexandria both for public order and to raise our treasury...

If only Zim would come online and give me his go with the story, perhaps judgment would be less fierce

Now that said, criticize and punish all you like...

That is exactly what I faced when I sacked Antioch. I did it OOC because of public order. Fortunately for me, there was not a law specifically forbidding what I did. So I only had to suffer some slings and arrows here and there IC.

The irony is, the law you broke was based of the one you created decades ago.

[ULC]

Sorry guys, I did what I had too. Hope no one is upset by my decision to terminate Ike, and I hope you can all take Veronica's anger in good humor OOC. Oh, and don't think Lady Veronica is going to fade away either

[Privateerkev]

From the Korakus thread:

Forgot the Charter you wrote? Not surprising, since you broke it once.

Quote:
Originally Posted by VII Punishment
A.) Punishment will be decided from amongst the House members not being considered for punishment. Punishment can come about from a unanimous decision or a 2/3 vote at the normal voting time. A House member in question cannot vote regarding his own punishment.

You can't vote regarding your punishment. Therefore I can vote. Thus, it would be a unanimous decision.
Face it, if you or I offended the Charter, we'd be done for.

This is what happens when you lift whole sections of the Order's Charter...

And this exact situation is precisely why I made a "two-tiered" system. If you let every member of your House vote from the moment they join, you could find your House voted out from under you.

This game is an interesting experiment in different kinds of "Houses." You have dictatorships and you have attempts at something like democracy.

The problem with a dictatorship, is that a lot of players don't feel "included." But it makes decision making very easy for the House Leader.

The problem with "democracy" in this game is that it requires high activity from all players for it to work. I find myself wanting to ignore parts of the Charter and make unilateral rulings simply because the other players who are supposed to "vote" aren't online for days at a time. (One has been gone for weeks.)

This is just a thought-piece that I had floating around...