OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I like the maps but...

-My capitol is at Tbilisi
-I also contol Diyarbakir, which Zim ceded to me before he broke his oath.

Sry about that!
I just used Zim's map to get the borders right and did not check who has what capital.
And who can blame us.. there are so many 'capitals' in these days that it's hard to remember all of them!

[Zim]

But Yerevan's so nice and central....

Sadly, I checked Woad's Magnarua thread while making the map and still didn't get it right.

Sry about that!
I just used Zim's map to get the borders right and did not check who has what capital.
And who can blame us.. there are so many 'capitals' in these days that it's hard to remember all of them!

[miniwally]

when oi run the lotr mod it says error opening file for writing \stainless_steel_mod\data\battle_config.xml

what do i do?

[ULC]

First, can you provide a setp-bu-step of your installation of SS and the LOTR mod?

And second, IK, your a bit confused - Sergios and Helarionas are one and the same

[miniwally]

First, can you provide a setp-bu-step of your installation of SS and the LOTR mod?

And second, IK, your a bit confused - Sergios and Helarionas are one and the same

1. downloaded stainless steel 4.0
2. dowloaded stainless steel 4.1 patch
3. dowloaded LotRMod 1.3
4. installed stainless steel 4.0 followed all of the things it said.
5. installed stainless steel 4.1 patch it said do i want to overwrite somethings and i figured this meant things from stainless steel 4.0 so i said yes
6. double-click LotRMod 1.3 click run and it comes up with that message

[ULC]

Where is your M2TW installed?

[miniwally]

oh that might be problem C:\Program Files\SEGA\Medieval II Total War

[KnightnDay]

If you look in windows explorer, do you see the battle_config xml file in the Stainless Steel mod data folder?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

And second, IK, your a bit confused - Sergios and Helarionas are one and the same

Lol.. this happens when people are using so many different characters or names to represent them! Can't keep track of everyone in these days!

Also, I thought that Rebels can't talk in the Magnaura either. But apparently I'm wrong.. again.

[flyd]

Apparently, you are wrong. It says:

(2) Cannot propose or vote on Edicts or Amendments in any Senate session. Cannot run for or vote in the election for Megas Logothetes.

Nothing stops them from talking. Erotikas and Sophianos, on the other hand, have indeed been banned from the Magnaura.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Yes, I know that after I checked the Rules myself.

About that banning though. The rules say that Basileus can ban them during the Senate Session but not in the time between them.

(12) Can ban Senators from a Senate Session. Banned Senators cannot speak or propose legislation, but they are permitted to vote.

As I understand the Rules then this current ban is more RP thing. Both Io and Kousinos can actually speak in the Magnaura.

[TinCow]

TheFlax asked me about that specific thing before he banned them. You are correct that the way it is worded only prevents people from speaking during actual sessions, but that's not what was intended when it was written. In KotR, we allowed the Kaiser to ban people during all periods, not just actual sessions. That was one of the main reasons why the Tavern was created, which has evolved into the Hippodrome. Thus, it is consistent with the way we've played for the last couple years to allow bans at all times. I will enforce it as such.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Good, now I know that I shouldn't make Basileus angry!

[miniwally]

If you look in windows explorer, do you see the battle_config xml file in the Stainless Steel mod data folder?

yes it's battle_config and saved as an xml document

[Ibn-Khaldun]

So, our current political situation is this - everyone against everyone?

I checked that Civil War thread and looks like this is the case. It will be dangerous to move around your avatar if you don't have enough men with you.

Edit: Also, when will Zim end this turn?

[mini]

Just posted my first speech, addressing this fact :p

I'm a but rusty since it has been years since i roleplayed or AAR'ed ^^

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Sry for double post but how will TC deal with the situation in Constantinople??

That city is the capital of Ioannis Komnenos III but there are many avatars inside the city who should be at war with him. Plus there is Apollonas Komnenos outside the city. According to the rules PvP should be fought! Or am I missing something? I haven't seen any declarations of neutrality from those people.

Individual Senators may unilaterally remove themselves from a Civil War within one turn of the Declaration of War that brought them into it by breaking all Oaths of Loyalty that tie them to any Senator involved in the War and by publicly declaring Neutrality.

Shouldn't we have to move all those avatars to the new capital?

[TinCow]

Good, now I know that I shouldn't make Basileus angry!

Note that banning does not prevent a person from voting or running for Megas, it only prevents them from posting in the Magnaura and proposing legislation. Of course, rebels can't vote or run for Megas either, so if you're a rebel AND you're banned, you're pretty much limited to rabble-rousing in the Hippodrome.

Sry for double post but how will TC deal with the situation in Constantinople??

That city is the capital of Ioannis Komnenos III but there are many avatars inside the city who should be at war with him. Plus there is Apollonas Komnenos outside the city. According to the rules PvP should be fought! Or am I missing something? I haven't seen any declarations of neutrality from those people.

Shouldn't we have to move all those avatars to the new capital?

This is interesting and I never noticed it. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Unfortunately, I am not going to get home (where my M2TW computer is) until late this evening and won't have time to check the game until tomorrow. If someone could list exactly who is in or close to the city, it would help me in deciding what to do.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

TC - but what about that Constantinople thing?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Sry, it's hard to see who is who here.

I think this does not make any sense.

Doh.. already answered.

Edit: There are Theophilos Tzimiskis(snowman13-inactive), Ioannis Komnenos II(Rodrico Stak-inactive), Evmathios Komnenos(Andres) and Ioannis Komnenos III(Ignoramus) in Constantinople.

[KnightnDay]

I can speak for Asteri. As far as Andreas goes, he may be getting close to going inactive. Haven't heard from Marcus Agrippa in a long while.

Who's the current Asteri representative? I have need to speak to them.

miniwally, unless someone else has a suggestion, I can only recommend a complete uninstall and reinstall, saving any game files to a separate folder first. That's what I had to do.

[TinCow]

Thanks Ibn. I will send a PM to those people informing them of the situation and of the risk to their avatar. I will give them until the end of the next full game turn to start moving away without it causing a PvP battle. If they do not move, Ignoramus is free to capture them and hold them prisoner.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

But what about those inactive players?

They could be killed off and IC reason would be that Igno's character ordered them to be murdered(if Igno agrees with it because this will leave a mark on his character)?

[TinCow]

I'm only willing to go so far to help inactive players, since they are unlikely to become active again (as yet, no one has become active after being transferred to the inactive list). I've notified them of the situation via PM and given them plenty of time to save themselves by moving or declaring neutrality. If they end up getting captured and executed by Ignoramus, it will be because of their own inactivity. I am comfortable with that. Of course, if any of them has given permission to someone else to move their avatar, that other person may do so to save them. If not, well... you snooze, you lose.

[miniwally]

miniwally, unless someone else has a suggestion, I can only recommend a complete uninstall and reinstall, saving any game files to a separate folder first. That's what I had to do.

of MTW:2? cause i can't

[miniwally]

how do you stop files being write protected?

[miniwally]

:D found disk 2 :D should be straight forward now if i install ti on good computer it will let LotR work or at least it did before i uninstalled

[Zim]

The stress of being Megas has clearly begun to drive Arintheos mad, guessing by his latest entry to the Megas' report.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=1293

[miniwally]

what's the order of play?

[Zim]

No order. I'm currently the Megas Logothetes (guy who moves the turn forward, among other things). I have to give everyone at least a day to take the save.

As long as noone else is taking it you can take the save to move any time. Just be sure to post it in the Megas' thread.

[miniwally]

oh cool seemed liike it was all planned in that forum :P i can't take the save as i'm not in it yet :P need to wait for my RGB's to be made i wonder when they will be i forgot when he said they would.

Do you just take the save from the megas logothetes or do you take it from the guy who posted above you?