OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 08-03-2008, 09:31

I want to know why you sallied too!
I can't look at the save but as I remember then a large Asteri army was near Caesarea. Right?
Damn.. I really liked Markianos

**Ramses II CP** · 08-03-2008, 14:14

Our first loss, and on the eastern front, and right before the jihad launch. Rough! My sympathies FD.

Battle deaths with these jedi generals are so unpredictable because they're so tough you really can't tell what could possibly kill them. Set up a few SP battles with generals against even the most elite spearmen and they just don't die, but every once in awhile...

**Warmaster Horus** · 08-03-2008, 14:30

Sad to see Markianos go, flyd. Especially since we've got the Jihad against us...

Um, in other news... Ibn-Khaldun and I are trying to set up a LotR style game for EB 1.1 (the mod for RTW); check this thread for more info. Current status has 5 players in, the faction being the Arche Seleukeia (the Seleucids). Despite the fact that we would start with plenty of territory, if we mod it somewhat, we could have an actually pretty difficult campaign ahead of us.
So... anybody interested?

**deguerra** · 08-03-2008, 14:40

Love to WH, but too busy at the moment, I'm afraid. I'll check it out if uni things cool down somewhat.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 08-03-2008, 15:23

I've just noticed that in both KotR and LotR that the game's second chancellor has been the first avatar to die. Take note for the sequel.

**TinCow** · 08-03-2008, 15:36

This poses a small problem with the rules which I forgot to anticipate. Technically, this breaks the oaths of loyalty for Zigavinos Vasilakios (rossahh) and Ioannis Kalameteros (deguerra). However, this causes a bit of unnecessary havoc within the system. Since this is not really discussed in the rules, I will do the following:

1) Zigavinos Vasilakios (rossahh) will be assumed to have immediately sworn a new oath to Ioannis Kalameteros (deguerra) to prevent any time of extra rank loss.
2) If Zigavinos Vasilakios (rossahh) does not want to re-swear to Ioannis Kalameteros (deguerra), then he simply needs to say so and it will be treated as if the oath was never sworn so that Zigavinos can reswear to someone else without the potential 5 turn delay.

It is also worth noting that since 1116 AD had already started at the time that Markianos Ampelas died, Ioannis Kalameteros (deguerra) successfully met the 5 turns at Patrikios rank requirement for Dux. He has now been demoted to Antypatos, but he can advance as far as Dux now without any time requirements. Note also that Thessalonica now belongs to Ioannis Kalameteros (deguerra).