OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[Northnovas]

What if we situated ourselves on th east side of the straight that would ensure a field battle instead of a siege or do you think this would deter the AI and it would take another route?

[Privateerkev]

I see FD has found something to do while he waits for the Emperor's son to come of age...

[TinCow]

Looking at the current save, I'm in a bit of quandry. There's a turk Jihad army a few turns march from Constantinople along the north coast of Anatolia.

Now my normal reaction would be to find a choke point between the capital and the army, offer battle, whittle them down and fall back. However, Crusade AI is a bit. . .um. . .unique and while a normal army might stop to to attack an inferior force at a choke point, I think in this case the Turks would just find another route.

I find the idea of just sitting in the capital a bit unappealing, but I don't want to "exploit the AI". Any suggestions?

If you are marching out with the intention of giving battle as soon as you meet them, you can do whatever you want. The only thing I was considering exploiting the AI was intentionally delaying them. If you're actually going out to attack, I have no problems with what anyone is doing, regardless of how the idiotic AI reacts to it. In addition, there are far fewer choke points in the northern part of Anatolia. Cecil (and the Templar before him) just happened to park themselves right on the most crucial point which then resulted in a massive (5-6 turn) detour. This is vastly different from any spot around Constantinople (except for possibly blocking the ocean crossings).

[Privateerkev]

What about if you fight them, lose, and end up without MP and still blocking the Jihad?



Also, I whacked one of the generals. I am assuming this will make that army drop out of the Jihad. Am I right?

[TinCow]

flyd, that Story post may be one of my favorite posts ever in the Throne Room.

What about if you fight them, lose, and end up without MP and still blocking the Jihad?

Under no circumstances whatsoever will a person EVER be penalized in any way for fighting a battle.

Also, I whacked one of the generals. I am assuming this will make that army drop out of the Jihad. Am I right?

I think so, but you can never tell with the AI. It might spawn in a new general for all I know.

[Ignoramus]

Or, being freed from the constraints of Jihad, it may decide to visit Antioch or Adana.

[GeneralHankerchief]

flyd, that Story post may be one of my favorite posts ever in the Throne Room.

Seconded.

[Northnovas]

flyd, that Story post may be one of my favorite posts ever in the Throne Room.

Well done!

[flyd]

What can I say, spending so many turns as a political ally of Ignoramus while he chooses to play a classic Ignoramus character can make a man get creative when it's over.

[Privateerkev]

What can I say, spending so many turns as a political ally of Ignoramus while he chooses to play a classic Ignoramus character can make a man get creative when it's over.

I would argue that this is a different Ignoramus character from all other Ignoramus characters that we have seen.

I mean, for once, he is the one in charge. Who is he supposed to rebel against? Himself?

[Ignoramus]

Don't forget that my first character(Sigismund der Stolze) was the most loyal character of the game. I'm actully relishing the opportunity to be the one in power, rather than the one rebelling against it.

[Privateerkev]

I'm actually relishing the opportunity to be the one in power, rather than the one rebelling against it.

I don't believe it. Some of us have a pool going on how long it will take for you to get bored being in charge. I believe eventually you will rebel against yourself and try to start up your own independent state.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Iggy, I'm going to give you the same advice I gave Ituralde when he played Siegfried: Enjoy it, because there's going to be plenty of people who are going to be doing the exact same thing you did.

[deguerra]

can I just publically state that Tagmata may have the Athens garrison for three or so turns without having to formally changed the SOT thread?

[TinCow]

Your post in the Megas thread was fine for that, although since Tagamata does not have a Private Army, the Megas himself can still mess with the force if he wants to.

[Kagemusha]

Flyd, those propaganda statements you wrote are just pure Gold!

[Andres]

Great stuff indeed

But I must admit that I'm tempted to ask flyd's permission to let Savvas kidnap "Demosthenes, Friend of the Roman People" to... teach him about the different social classes and how to critisize those of higher classes in a more appropriate way

[deguerra]

Very nicely written.

May I just say most awesome opening ceremony ever. And now im going to bed. Good night.

[Kagemusha]

Igno, this is really getting tiresome.Would you be so kind and answer my pm´s. If its IC reason you dont want to answer, i can accept, but if its OOC and i have to wait couple weeks to get an answer, then....

[flyd]

But I must admit that I'm tempted to ask flyd's permission to let Savvas kidnap "Demosthenes, Friend of the Roman People" to... teach him about the different social classes and how to critisize those of higher classes in a more appropriate way

What do you mean? Satirical flattery seems like a wholly appropriate way to criticize someone in a position of power. You were only being used as a literary device.

[Privateerkev]

What do you mean? Satirical flattery seems like a wholly appropriate way to criticize someone in a position of power. You were only being used as a literary device.

I demand that propaganda be more factually accurate in the future. I mean, who ever heard of sarcasm, distortions, embellishments, lies, and un-truths in propaganda!?!

I am very disappointed...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Igno, this is really getting tiresome.Would you be so kind and answer my pm´s. If its IC reason you dont want to answer, i can accept, but if its OOC and i have to wait couple weeks to get an answer, then....

To make sure this isn't buried.

On a side note though, if I ever become Megas I think I might just turn off PMs for the duration of my turn. Seems like it would take care of a lot of problems.

[AussieGiant]

To make sure this isn't buried.

On a side note though, if I ever become Megas I think I might just turn off PMs for the duration of my turn. Seems like it would take care of a lot of problems.

*raises his hand to affirm the motion*

[Privateerkev]

It might make the Senate more interesting in between terms...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

And then we will have many people complaining that their buildings are not built and their armies are not recruited

[Privateerkev]

And then we will have many people complaining that their buildings are not built and their armies are not recruited

I hope no one here would do that. If your army is not being recruited, or your building is not being built, you should definitely not complain in the Senate. The Senate is only for very serious business and I would hope that no one here would ever spam it up with such posts.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

2.4 – Wills & Inheritance: On his death, all of a Senator’s provinces and retinue are distributed according to the most recent valid Will. In order for a Will to be valid, it must have been posted in a public thread or PMed to econ21 or TinCow prior to the Senator’s death. Except as noted below, a Will provision is only valid to the extent that it names a living, of-age avatar that is controlled by another player as the inheritor of the province or retinue stated. A player's next avatar may only inherit a single province and a single retinue. A Will may name multiple Senators as inheritors, so long as each province and/or retinue is only bequeathed to a single Senator. Any provisions of the Will that do not meet these requirements will be invalid. Valid provisions of a Will will not be negated due to the existence of invalid provisions in the same Will. If there is no valid Will provision for an owned province, the Senator’s immediate Lord gains possession of the province. If the Senator also has no Lord, the Basileus gains possession of the province.

Now.. It is said that the Will is valid only if it 'names a living, of-age avatar that is controlled by another player as the inheritor of the province or retinue stated'.

So this means that I can not give a settlement conquered by me, managed by me, defended by me to my next avatar?
Why can't I make a Will that says 'I will give my province X and ancillary Y to my next avatar"?

[Privateerkev]

Now.. It is said that the Will is valid only if it 'names a living, of-age avatar that is controlled by another player as the inheritor of the province or retinue stated'.

So this means that I can not give a settlement conquered by me, managed by me, defended by me to my next avatar?
Why can't I make a Will that says 'I will give my province X and ancillary Y to my next avatar"?

There is also this: "A player's next avatar may only inherit a single province and a single retinue."

Your next avatar is an exception to the rule. You can give 1 province and 1 retinue to your next avatar. Otherwise, it can only be to an avatar that has a current different player.

So, in your will, you can leave province X and retinue Y to your next avatar. The rest has to go to avatars that are currently in the game and have different players.

[Ignoramus]

Just filled in a quick story over Ioannis Komnenos II's birth.

[flyd]

Wait, who was it that fought at Yerevan?