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    Bureaucratically Efficient Senior Member TinCow's Avatar
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    Again, unlike in the previous situation, no one would have expected this to result in a reverse movement of the Jihad, as the other crossing was open. It just happened that the French Crusade moved there during its turn (before the Jihad got to move) and this then resulted in both routes being blocked. He then asked me what to do. I said I would prefer if it he replayed it, but that if that would take a lot of time he didn't have to. Apparently it would have taken a lot of time, as he did not.

    Yes, I'm already regretting sticking my foot into this strategic AI issue in the first place. I think that was an error and I should just have let it be. Trying to figure out what is good and what is bad in this kind of situation may cause more problems than just dealing with the moronic AI as it is.
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    We could just pretend that the French did it to help us.

    And yeah, trying to save the AI from itself seems like a losing battle.


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    I hope it's obvious I wasn't complaining about the solution, but about the AI, which is always happy to abuse itself even when we aren't trying to abuse it. The jihad shuffle is just a particularly hilarious example of AI self abuse because if the AI didn't get map information it shouldn't have for it's pathing then the shuffle wouldn't work. One of those cases where the programmers tried to help the AI out and ended up making a royal mess of it. It'd be better if there were a simple sort of '+1' solution to cause the AI to wait at least one turn before deciding to go 15 turns out of the way, or even better if the AI could reasonably pick a good defensive terrain spot and wait it out there.

    While I'm dreaming why not have the AI perform jihads the way a player would, conquering everything along a reasonably direct path to the target, eh?


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    Point of order:

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    I was under the impression that this avatar was reserved for flyd once it came of age.
    Last I heard, flyd hadn't made up his mind:

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    All right then, my mistake.
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    In fact, the AI is more moronic than you think. I replayed the save, as TC asked me to do, and didn't block the crossing. The Turks still turned around.

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