OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[AussieGiant]

Great, thanks TC.

We'll get moving now I hope.

[TinCow]

I have (finally) updated the rules with all of the CA 5.1 changes. Due to the extensive editing this required, I have not put my usual (Modified by CA X.X) notation on the changes, as that would have resulted in an absurd number of notations.

I have also included notes on the Megas and Exarch guides indicating that they are currently obsolete due to the 5.1 changes. I will update the guides eventually to take into account the changes, but that might take a week or two.

Also, the first part of the Code of Conduct has been changed from this:

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1. Do not violate the LotR Game Rules. Edicts may be freely violated, but Rules may not. If a Rule is violated and another player protests this violation either publicly or by sending a PM to TinCow, a warning will be sent to the player who violated the Rule. A second Rule violation will result in punishment. The level of punishment will be determined by TinCow alone and will be designed to be proportionate to the harm of the rule that has been violated. Unintentional rule violations are still rule violations, though a lack of malice will be taken into account when issuing a punishment.
   
   Punishments can include, but are not limited to:
   • Temporary breaking of oaths and a ban on reswearing.
   • Temporary loss of all rights to a PA/RA.
   • Confiscation of Land.
   • Temporary suspension from LotR.
   • Permanent suspension from LotR.
   
   
   If you are unsure whether an action you want to take will violate a Rule, send a PM to TinCow or make a proper post in the Rule Interpretation thread (coming soon). Ignorance of the Rules is not an excuse, though it will be taken into account when determining a punishment. You will be given as much help as you need to understand how to play the game, but it is still your responsibility to know the Rules and to obey them. When in doubt, follow the spirit of the Rules and use them as they are intended to be used, even if there is a way to exploit the language to do otherwise.

to this:

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1. Do not violate the LotR Game Rules. IC legislation may be freely violated (though it may result in IC consequences), but Game Rules may not. If at all possible, Game Rule violations will be handled exclusively IC. If IC handling is not possible, the punishment will be designed to rectify the error rather than to punish the perpetrator, unless the violation was intentional and malicious. Intentional and malicious violations can result in temporary or permanent suspension from the game. In all cases, the action to be taken will be determined by TinCow and will be designed to minimize the disruption to the game and maximize enjoyment.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Again, sorry for not being active either in an OOC (finishing up the Influence mess) or an IC (Making an SoT, initially moving my character) role. At the moment RL has gotten more fun/interesting so as a result I'm spending less time on the .Org. I'll try to push my involvement up back to an acceptable level.

Also, TC, while you were away there was some discussion about removing inactive avatars (BananaBob's name came up the most, IIRC). Is the plan to off them once and for all at the start of the next Senate session?

[_Tristan_]

The names of Neokaisareitis, Sarantinos, Ek Korinthiou, or Eirinikos come to mind when mentioning Inactive avatars...

New ones could always be recruited if these people come back...

Lemon hasn't been on for two months...
Byblos for almost 3
Bananabob last post dates back a month
and Ichigo hasn't make an apparition here for a long time though he's still active on the .Org.

Those avatars are asking to be killed off...

EDIT : Oops !! In my mind, we were at the start of September... Hopefully, TC got it right...

[TinCow]

The relevant avatars are Philippos Eirinikos (Ichigo), Tarasios Sarantinos (Byblos), and Anastasios Neokaisareitis (The Lemongate). I checked with Ichigo and he confirmed he is not returning and can be killed off. Byblos has been gone for 4 months and TLG has been gone for 3.5 months. All three will thus be killed off the next time I actually do something to the save game (which could well be the next Senate session). BananaBob is borderline at the moment. He has been gone for 2 months, but PK previously said that he had been in touch with BB and was going to contact him via email to see what was going on. However, since PK is himself inactive now, this has led nowhere. I will probably give BananaBob one more Megas term to reappear before killing him off, just to be sure.

[AussieGiant]

Again, sorry for not being active either in an OOC (finishing up the Influence mess) or an IC (Making an SoT, initially moving my character) role. At the moment RL has gotten more fun/interesting so as a result I'm spending less time on the .Org. I'll try to push my involvement up back to an acceptable level.

OH OH!! I know what that is!!! Giiiiirrrrrlllllss!!!

GH has a girlfriend na na naaa na naaaaa!!!

I'm soooo juvenile...IT'S GREAT!!!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Thanks AG. That actually did make me LOL.

Anyways, it's more a group of friends and just more freedom than anything else.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Thanks AG. That actually did make me LOL.

Anyways, it's more a group of friends and just more freedom than anything else.

So no girlfriend?



Edit:

[flyd]

Anyways, it's more a group of friends and just more freedom than anything else.

So, what you're trying to say is you'll be too busy looking for a girlfriend?

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'll tell you guys what, since you're so clearly interested in my romantic pursuits (), as soon as a proper lady comes along you shall be the first to know.

[Ramses II CP]

On the authority stat, FYI authority can 'roll around' such that negative authority displays as having 10 authority. This occurs even in vanilla (There were several examples of it in my Total Tyranny campaign and I think the screenshots would still be there to find). That doesn't mean it's not a bug, but I doubt it's an artifact of the removal of the civil war system.

The King from my first stint in the Scottish AAR might've had this happen too, I can't remember if his rolled around to negative numbers or was just zero.

There are a number of examples of this type of behavior in MTWII (For example your Papal approval rating can roll over the top and suddenly go from perfect to the lowest possible, this happened twice in my Danish campaign because my rules forced gifting so much territory to the Pope). Sloppy coding if you ask me.

[TinCow]

Well, it does mean that Ioannis has negative Authority for some reason. I checked the game files and Ioannis does not have ANY negative authority traits. There IS a hidden negative authority trait in the game that is part of the Civil War system, but I don't think that's the problem either because I tried removing it and Ioannis' authority didn't change. If he'd had it, removing it would have worked even though it wasn't showing up on his trait list. Thus, Ioannis seems to have a default -2 to Authority. AFAIK, that shouldn't be happening, thus I call it a bug until I'm shown otherwise.

[Dafuge]

Seems that I'm having some trouble installing Med 2. Anyway I'm glad my province is out the way and my character is gone. Now I can start afresh. As soon as I get my Medieval 2 working I would like to be spawned in Trebizond. (sp?)

Edit: Saw that TC already made me a few characters in Thessalonica. No worrys, will change my plan.