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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan de Castelreng View Post
    Perusing the Political Table, I noticed that Methodios was listed with having 1 Inf. Doesn't his being Caesar grant him an automatic + 1 Inf ?

    The influence table has not been updated since 1140. I only update it during Senate sessions, and did not do so for the emergency session since I wasn't around for it. It will be updated again when the 1155 Senate session starts... unless another emergency session is called before then.

    Also, please note that the rank of Caesar only gives a +1 to STAT influence. People seem to be getting Influence and Stat Influence confused, so I'll try and explain it a bit better.

    There are TWO kinds of 'Influence'... regular Influence and Stat Influence. Regular Influence is an automatic +1 to your vote weight. If you have +1 Influence, you get +1 to your vote weight no matter what happens. Stat Influence is NOT automatic, it is simply extra influence that it is possible for you to achieve if you have the right stats. In order to actually make use of a point of Stat Influence, you have to meet one of the requirements for it. These are the requirements:

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    (a) 5+ ranks of Command (b) 10 ranks of Command (c) 5+ ranks of Chivalry or Dread (d) 10 ranks of Chivalry or Dread (e) 10 ranks of Loyalty (f) 8+ ranks of Piety (g) 20+ total stat points (h) 30+ total stat points (i) 40 total stat points (j) Senator’s name is modified by a trait title that bestows more negative than positive stat points (i.e. the Mad) (k) Senator is married to a Byzantine Empire Princess (l) Senator possesses the title of Lord High Chancellor, Lord High Steward, or Privy Seal.


    Let's use an actual avatar as an example:
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    In this mugshot, Ioannis meets 3 of the requirements for Stat Influence. These are (a) 5+ ranks of Command, (c) 5+ ranks of Chivalry, and (g) 20+ total stat points. Thus, Ioannis at this point can make use of 3 Stat Influence. However, that doesn't contribute to his vote weight unless he actually has 3 or more Stat Influence available to him.

    For example, lets pretend that at this point Ioannis holds the rank of Domestikos. Domestikos gives 1 regular Influence and up to 1 Stat Influence. Thus, his total vote weight is 2 (1 from regular influence and 1 from Stat Influence). Even though he meets the requirements for two more Stat Influence, he does not get any benefit from them because he does not have sufficient rank to make use of them. Now, let's instead pretend that Ioannis holds the rank of Exarch. Exarch gives 1 regular Influence and up to 4 Stat Influence. This means Ioannis gets a total weighted vote of 4, 1 from his regular influence and 3 because he meets 3 of the Stat Influence requirements. He does NOT get to use the 4th Stat Influence from the Exarch rank, because he does not meet a 4th requirement.

    The reasoning behind this is simple: You have to have both rank AND good stats to get higher influence. A buffoon will not sway many people into voting his way, even if he has a high rank. A genius will not be able to sway voters if he has no political rank of significance. In order to increase your influence you need to improve your stats AND gain in rank.

    This is one of the reasons why the Megas position is so powerful. Even after you have left the position, you get a permanent +1 to regular Influence and a permanent +1 to Stat Influence. Let's look at Ioannis again to see the advantage. If Ioannis in the above mugshot has the rank of Strator, he has a measly vote weight of 1, despite his high stats. However, let's pretend that he's also served as Megas TWICE. He's still a Strator (perhaps he just alienated all his allies and lost a Civil War), but the two terms as Megas give him a +2 to regular Influence and a +2 to Stat Influence. Since he meets the requirements for at least 2 Stat Influence, he can make use of them both. Thus, he gets +4 to his vote weight from his two Megas terms in addition to the normal 1 he gets for being a Strator. So, double ex-Megas Ioannis has a vote weight of 5, despite only holding the rank of Strator. That is as powerful as an Exarch with maxed-out Stat Influence.
    Last edited by TinCow; 10-09-2008 at 23:18.


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