OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

**TinCow** · 10-29-2008, 14:00

Please be aware that in order to declare neutrality in a Civil War, you must break your oath to ALL other Senators involved in the Civil War:

Individual Senators may unilaterally remove themselves from a Civil War within one turn of the Declaration of War that brought them into it by breaking all Oaths of Loyalty that tie them to any Senator involved in the War and by publicly declaring Neutrality. Neutrality cannot be claimed by a declarer, a target, or any Senator who has been involved in a PvP Battle during that specific Civil War.

This includes vassals. Thus, Northnovas has not yet properly removed himself from the Civil War. If you have a vassal in a Civil War and want to leave it, you must either break your oath to the vassal or have the vassal get out of the Civil War as well (via neutrality or Peace Treaty).

All of this political maneauvering on the declarations of war (which we have never experienced before) has made me realize that this system is a little bit cumbersome. I think we can streamline it a bit by falling back on our feudal system. At the next Senate session I will propose a Rule Change that will make declarations of neutrality and Peace Treaties signed by any Senator also apply to everyone below them in their vassal chain. This will make the process a bit simpler, and it doesn't really prejudice anyone because any vassal removed from a Civil War in this manner can just declare war again to get back into it if they really want to.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-29-2008, 17:40

I'm hereby resigning from LotR. Ever since the Klimis character was spawned, I've tried to make things work, but it just didn't happen. There were numerous attempts at immersing myself in the game (alliances, Megas election, new House), but none of them worked. I realized that even after a potentially juicy civil war situation when I wasn't motivated enough to move my character around for 5 minutes every 2 days or so and make an SoT post that this just wasn't going to work.

I'd like to apologize to the people that invested time in the game with me, notable OK, AG, and deguerra for making a brilliant coat of arms that will, sadly, never be used.

I'll still be around, voting in an OOC role and umpiring any potential PvP battles that come up, but for now, I just can't be bothered to take a character and go with it. Maybe sometime farther down the line. Have a good game, guys.

**Ituralde** · 10-29-2008, 18:33

I'm surprised and saddened by this. I hope it didn't have too much to do with me winning the election for Megas. I hope your motivation will return eventually!

**Ituralde** · 10-31-2008, 11:57

Smowz has contacted me that he will not be able to fight the battle within the 48 hour timeframe that is allocated for fighting battles. Since he could easily retreat back to his ships I saw no need to extend this period and have played on before the 48 hours were over.