OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[Ituralde]

I realize that the situation wasn't good for Methodios, but it was clear from the beginning that forcing a PVP battle out of a story, was not the best solution. The fact remains that both sides didn't invest enough into this Civil War, while the rest of the Empire was content to watch from the sidelines.

I just don't want you to feel unhappy with the game, or somehow blame the things that happened on the playerbase. The conditions might have been good, but looking at the outcome they apparently weren't good enough. That doesn't mean we have wasted our last chance to have a Civil War in this game or that the position of Basileus has not been weakened by it. It was a stalemate and nobody was willing to resolve it, and that's why nothing happened and the Senate decided to end the farce. If the participants disagree they are free to start their war again.

Once the holiday lull is over I am confident that we will see more action. I have plans for my next avatar, so I would not count the whole game lost or anything. I think the whole Ioannis-Methodios incident was a nice first step, from the period under Aleksios where peace between all nobles was unquestionable, because we had outside enemies to turn on. This will slowly shift to enemies within the Empire and the recent conflict has been an important step in this.

Cheers!

Ituralde

[ULC]

I just hope TC can get those Avatar's queued up so I can pick my already! I'm all geared up and ready to go

[Zim]

So very close, YLC...well, depending on how long the next turn lasts after it finally officially starts.

[TinCow]

Apologies for the slow start to this turn. I wasn't aware there was a third defensive battle until just now. This term WILL get moving at a reasonable pace in the near future.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

So, where is Northnovas anyway?

[Northnovas]

So, where is Northnovas anyway?

Okay I just got back home I was away the past couple days. Just trying to get some things done here and will try to get to the defensive battle tonight.

[YouHaveRecieved]

Hi,

I have recently joined Will of the Basileus and it is quite enjoyable.

I would like to join Last of the Romans aswell as it look enjoyable.

How easy is it to keep track of both games?

[TinCow]

The Library is being completely updated to reflect the numerous changes that have taken place recently. For convenience, I am listing all of the changes here. Please point out any errors or omissions you notice.

Moved to Inactive List (lose their provinces and oaths of fealty are cut):
Ioannis Kantakouzinos (Kagemusha) - Provinces (Yerevan, Dyarbakir) given to his Lord, Pavlos Chrysovergos (Ituralde)
Nikiphoros Manouelitis (Warmaster Horus)
Lisas Attaleiatis (00jebus) - His Lord (Ioannis Kantakouzinos) is also going inactive, so his provinces (Trebizond) is given to his Lord's Lord, Pavlos Chrysovergos (Ituralde)

Komnenodoukai Changes:
Loss of two members results in a three person house. Tiblisi given to Andronikos Komnenos (woad&fangs). As two middle members were removed due to inactivity, the oaths are considered re-sworn within the house to fill in the gaps, resulting in Comes, Domestikos, and Hypatos.

Order of St. John Changes:
Deaths and inactivity have reduced them to a three person house. Despite an official announcement that Armatos ek Naksou (Cecil XIX) was no longer the Grandmaster, the oaths have not been resworn and thus he remains the highest rank of the Order of St. John. Oaths automatically re-sworn to fill the gap caused by the death of Vissarionas ek Lesvou. Antiokheia is given to Vartholomaios Ksiros (Rowan).

The Accord Changes:
Death of 2 out of 3 members essentially makes it a non-entity. Since it was described to me initially as an unofficial alliance and not really a House, I will mark it as ceasing to exist and will put its remaining member, Apionnas Vringas (AussieGiant), as unaligned unless given other instructions. Apionnas Vringas gains control of Bucharest, as Klimis Dokeianos (GeneralHankerchief) was still sworn to him when he died, and I cannot find a will for him. (Correct me if I am wrong on this.)

Ilios Korakas Changes:.
Vakchos Tzetzis (Smowz) swore an oath to Methodios Tagaris (Tristan de Castelreng), but it was rejected at that time due to the Civil War. While that part of the Civil War is now over, the oath has never been resworn, so Vakchos Tzetzis is considered unaligned. The imminent retirement (death) of Nikolaos Aristenos (YLC) will result in further changes. Methodios Tagaris gains Kosmopolis. Nikolaos Aristenos gains Durazzo.

Asteri Changes:
Ammonathas Kalameteros (KnightnDay) swears to Andreas Dermokaitis (Marcus Agrippa), but remains landless.
Andreas Dermokaitis (Marcus Agrippa) swears an oath to Zigavinos Vasilakios (rossahh).
Zigavinos Vasilakios (rossahh) switches his oath to Magnetios Kalameteros (Zim).
Magnentios Kalameteros (Zim) swears an oath to Savvas ek Militou (Andres).
Savvas ek Militou (Andres) swears an oath to Aleksios ek Ikoniou (Northnovas).
Aleksios ek Ikoniou (Northnovas) swears an oath to Ioannis Kalameteros (deguerra).
Savvas ek Militou (Andres) dies (Arta given to Ioannis Komnenos (Ignoramus) by will), and an auto-oath is sworn between Magnentios Kalameteros and Aleksios ek Ikoniou to fill the gap.

The resulting house caps out at a Dux, with the potential for Megas Dux/Exarch if Ammonathas obtains land and the House remains stable for 10 turns after that point.

Misc changes due to deaths:
Constantinople given to Ioannis Komnenos (Ignoramus)

[GeneralHankerchief]

You are correct about my character's lack of will, TC.

BTW, give me some time to digest that PM you sent me. I'll have it back in a day or two.

[TinCow]

BTW, give me some time to digest that PM you sent me. I'll have it back in a day or two.

No rush on it at all, it was a slow work week, and I found it more interesting to work on that. I'm still months away from being ready for it, so there's no urgency at all.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Happy New Year everyone!!!

[ULC]

No rush on it at all, it was a slow work week, and I found it more interesting to work on that. I'm still months away from being ready for it, so there's no urgency at all.

OMG, Oh noes! GH and TC are plotting something, woe betide us all!

[TinCow]

OMG, Oh noes! GH and TC are plotting something, woe betide us all!

LOL, it's not for LotR. I'm going to host a mafia game. Since I haven't done one before, I asked GH to take a look at my first draft of the roles to see if they are balanced.

[ULC]

I still think your plotting something...

[KnightnDay]

Asteri Changes:
Ammonathas Kalameteros (KnightnDay) swears to Andreas Dermokaitis (Marcus Agrippa), but remains landless.
Andreas Dermokaitis (Marcus Agrippa) swears an oath to Zigavinos Vasilakios (rossahh).
Zigavinos Vasilakios (rossahh) switches his oath to Magnetios Kalameteros (Zim).
Magnentios Kalameteros (Zim) swears an oath to Savvas ek Militou (Andres).
Savvas ek Militou (Andres) swears an oath to Aleksios ek Ikoniou (Northnovas).
Aleksios ek Ikoniou (Northnovas) swears an oath to Ioannis Kalameteros (deguerra).
Savvas ek Militou (Andres) dies (Arta given to Ioannis Komnenos (Ignoramus) by will), and an auto-oath is sworn between Magnentios Kalameteros and Aleksios ek Ikoniou to fill the gap.

The resulting house caps out at a Dux, with the potential for Megas Dux/Exarch if Ammonathas obtains land and the House remains stable for 10 turns after that point.

Ammonathas is expecting to be granted Thessaloniki. Just waiting for the papers to be passed.
I have witnesses!!

[Rowan]

Order of St. John Changes:
Deaths and inactivity have reduced them to a three person house. Despite an official announcement that Armatos ek Naksou (Cecil XIX) was no longer the Grandmaster, the oaths have not been resworn and thus he remains the highest rank of the Order of St. John. Oaths automatically re-sworn to fill the gap caused by the death of Vissarionas ek Lesvou. Antiokheia is given to Vartholomaios Ksiros (Rowan).

Antiokheia coming back to Bart must be wrong unless Theo just died...
Here Armatos gives Antiokheia to Bart and here it is passed to Theo. The wording is not the most clear but Bart's had the title ancillary for quite a while so I'd think it was clear enough.

Unless you meant Thebes, which was Vissa's province...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I think during the Senate Session Antiokheia belonged to Vartholomaios. Theo got it only recently.