OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[woad&fangs]

And all those new faces are welcomed in the Order!

of St. Jude

[The Celtic Viking]

Hey! If you're going to fight for us, at least do it in a way that matters: show us some offers, now!

[ULC]

Hey! If you're going to fight for us, at least do it in a way that matters: show us some offers, now!

I offer you glory, men to command, honor for serving your duty, women and drink, long speeches to speak, books to read, long marches to make, internal power within my House second to only me, and the ability to kill off your brother and uncle, who are actually in your way for becoming Emperor.

[woad&fangs]

If you side with me, I won't be forced to add you to the great wall of skulls I'm building to keep the Turks out

Also, I'll rename Theopolis to Appolonopolis after I burn it to the ground, let it rebel, and burn it to the ground again, and then salt the earth so nothing grows.

and my army is bigger than Tagaris' army

[TheFlax]

and my army is bigger than Tagaris' army

Size matters not. Only the number of nigh invincible jedi bodyguards you have with you. I believe I have more of those.

[Zim]

He has a point there.

Size matters not. Only the number of nigh invincible jedi bodyguards you have with you. I believe I have more of those.

[The Celtic Viking]

YLC makes a good appeal to my wish to rape, pillage and plunder, but Woad makes an good appeal to my wish to have a barren, inhospitable, genocide-infested land of agonizing death named after me. Oh, I feel like I kid in a candy store! If only there was something to tip the scale...

[TinCow]

Size matters not. Only the number of nigh invincible jedi bodyguards you have with you. I believe I have more of those.

Do I need to point out how many avatars have died in battle in this game?

[TinCow]

Received this question by PM, replying here because I think my answer should be public knowledge:

Suppose there's a Captain-led stack belonging to a Rebel/Seccessionist/Independent Ruler. The Chancellor can't move that stack, but can any Senator, Loyalist or otherwise, seize the captain-led stack liek any other?

This is a loophole with the rules. I intended to put Captain stacks under the control of the Rebels when they were within their own 'Realms' to allow for shuffling of garrisons around and whatnot. This was meant to mimic the Megas' own abilities within the Empire, but on a smaller scale. While it's perfectly fine for other Rebels/etc. who are part of that rebellion to take control of Rebel Captain stacks by moving on top of them, it doesn't make sense for other Senators to be able to do so. Thus, any Senator who is at war with the rebels who encounters a Captain stack within their territory will fight that stack as a Custom Battle against the AI. Neutral Senators will just go on about their business, unable to 'seize' the stack, but also not involved in a battle with it.

Looks like I'll probably need a Loophole Cleanup Rule Change at the next session.

[ULC]

YLC makes a good appeal to my wish to rape, pillage and plunder, but Woad makes an good appeal to my wish to have a barren, inhospitable, genocide-infested land of agonizing death named after me. Oh, I feel like I kid in a candy store! If only there was something to tip the scale...

Do remember I pointed out to be Emperor, you would have to kill Andronikos. Considering average skill between the 2 players, I would suspect that W&F will come out on top, meaning TF is dead...but, then you would have to go and kill Andronikos, making you a bit of a traitor...but, you can keep your honor intact if you just simply join me, and then kill Andronikos

[Zim]

I think some of the deaths have been because people push to see just how nigh invulnerable their generals are.

When Magnentios died out of bad luck on charge one of his battle, I then was able to use the remaining bodyguards to slaughter the whole rest of the opposing army almost by themselves.

Do I need to point out how many avatars have died in battle in this game?

[TheFlax]

I think you're writing me off as dead pretty quickly, lots of things may happen between now and the possible battle. Also, I might not even command it.

I would suspect that W&F will come out on top, meaning TF is dead...

[ULC]

I think you're writing me off as dead pretty quickly, lots of things may happen between now and the possible battle. Also, I might not even command it.

Shush, I am recruiting followers....

[Cecil XIX]

I think you're writing me off as dead pretty quickly, lots of things may happen between now and the possible battle. Also, I might not even command it.

At least they're talking about you. Right, Igno?

[ULC]

At least they're talking about you. Right, Igno?

Your not important either, you don't even understand how to march an army to a location!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Mmm... the old stomping grounds.

How's everyone been? What did I miss? Apparenly it's been a long time. Is the House Asteri still around?

[Cecil XIX]

Barely, as I understand.

[TheFlax]

Barely alive pretty much describes every "faction" in the Empire.

[Cecil XIX]

Maybe so, but at least people don't have to ask who's left to talk to when they want to contact other factions.

[rossahh]

We still own like 10 provinces, thank you very much.

[Ignoramus]

I know, and they'll be greatly appreciated by a Roman Augustus, when you join the Empire of the West.

[rossahh]

I haven't seen any offer.

[miniwally]

What happens if your in a battle with someone elses bodyguard (on your side) as well can the other guy die?

[_Tristan_]

yes, it happened a few times in KotR (the precedent game). I'm not sure it happened in this one though...

[TinCow]

What happens if your in a battle with someone elses bodyguard (on your side) as well can the other guy die?

Yes. If your avatar is moving with someone else's stack and that person is going to fight a battle, make sure you trust them not to get you killed. In KotR, someone actually became Kaiser (Emperor) because the previous Emperor died during a battle the new Emperor controlled.

[miniwally]

Yes. If your avatar is moving with someone else's stack and that person is going to fight a battle, make sure you trust them not to get you killed. In KotR, someone actually became Kaiser (Emperor) because the previous Emperor died during a battle the new Emperor controlled.

How does this work if it's a PvP battle as you can only have one captain is it if all unit is destroyed?

[TinCow]

No avatar will ever die as a result of a PvP battle, so it's not a concern. In any case, PvP battles with more than 2 avatars would be fought in a manner that would either allow no one to control themselves (AI Battle) or everyone to control themselves (Tabletop & Abbreviated Tabletop Battles).

[Cecil XIX]

No avatar will ever die as a result of a PvP battle,

No more 'Battle of Bern'-type endings?

[TinCow]

No more 'Battle of Bern'-type endings?

The deaths in the Battle of Bern were consensual. econ21 asked all players whether they would surrender (and be captured) or fight to the death if such a situation became necessary. IIRC, FactionHeir and Privateerkev opted to fight to the death, which is why they died. GH opted to surrender, but he did so to FH's men, who were under orders to kill anyone who surrendered. The above scenario could still occur in its entirety in LotR. I will certainly allow deaths to occur if the person dying agrees to it (as has already happened with pevergreen at Durazzo). I also already allow captured avatars to be executed by their captors. The only thing I will not allow is a random death in battle for no other reason. If someone is going to die in PvP, it will be because (1) they agree to it or (2) they are captured and executed by their captor.

[Cecil XIX]

May I ask why the Tax Rate in Constantinople and Nicaea were set to 'Normal' before the turn had ended? They are supposed to remain at 'Very High' for five turns, but so far they've only suffered the effects for two turns. (1194 and 1195-6)

Since Ioannis III is still a rebel, this appears to be a clear violation of the rules, necessitating that the turn be redone from LOTR-1197-10.