OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I know it's up to me! That's way I said "The demise of Andronikos"!

[GeneralHankerchief]

The Battle of Edessa thread is up. Please read it carefully and let me know if you have any questions. PvP is complicated stuff and what makes sense in my head doesn't necessarily translate well to other people. In addition, I strongly recommend reading the links that TinCow provided to other PvP battles in the other Edessa thread.

[woad&fangs]

Everything in the Edessa battle thread seems to make sense to me

Now I just need to figure out how to deal with Theo's cavalry

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Yes, it's fine for me too!

Now I just need to figure out how to deal with Theo's cavalry

For me it's the opposite thing. I need to figure out how to deal with Andronikos' infantry

[GeneralHankerchief]

All right, excellent. You have 24 hours to send in your deployments, guys.

[Ituralde]

This should be very interesting. I look forward to reading the writeups. I really admire the effort you put into these things GH!

[GeneralHankerchief]

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[mini]

I do have a question related to the battle, though not it's proceedings.

I've read that Andronikos Komnenos (woad&fangs) came from the west. Now I was lookign at the screen. The besieged city is at a river, with no obvious crossings. So I assume he came from the South-west?
Else woad's avatar is blocking view of the river crossing

That avatar in the lower left corner, is standing on a bridge. Now I'm not sure of the map, but on the screen that's the only crossing I can see from the west.

Considering that that avatar on the bridge there is loyal to theflax, ergo an ally of Petzoas, shouldn't there have been some sort of battle there when woad crossed the bridge?

Not that it would change much. Woad would have only a handful armymen less, but Ibn would have had a chance to escape perhaps :)

Just a point of thought. If woads avatar is blocking view on the crossing just north of him, I will stand corrected.
Don't have acces to the game at work.

[Zim]

There's a bridge just north of Andronikos' army. You can see it in the screenshot if you look closely.

[mini]

I saw a road there, but see no crossing.

Well I wasn't sure so I thought to ask anyway :)

[flyd]

There is always a bridge when a road meets a river. But beside the roads which have bridged river-crossings, what have the Romans ever done for us?

[TinCow]

There is always a bridge when a road meets a river. But beside the roads which have bridged river-crossings, what have the Romans ever done for us?

They've certainly never brought public order and the rule of law.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Let's hear it for timely orders and two cancelled classes!

[TinCow]

Yikes, the armies seemed far less balanced in the actual game than they do on the most recent battle map!

Let's hear it for timely orders and two cancelled classes!

Heh, my wife and I took advantage of the government's unscheduled leave option to stay home and play Dawn of War II. Most of our co-workers were similarly 'inconvenienced' by the snow.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yikes, the armies seemed far less balanced in the actual game than they do on the most recent battle map!

I think a big part of it was, in-game, a lot of Theo's cavalry was down to half strength. Me merging a lot of the units together took care of a few unit cards which explains why the difference looks so scary.

[flyd]

It looks like a done deal to me. Theo's supposed cavalry advantage is only slight. He only has one excess unit to maneuver with, and while his cavalry has more strength per unit, Andy has too large a number of excess spearmen to help out with. In a shootout, the foot archers negate the slight cavalry advantage, or even shift the balance to their side altogether.

I see only one outcome here, unless w&f manages to botch the entire thing in a spectacular fashion. It could happen, I suppose, but if I were IK, I would be asking GH to clarify the details of his withdawal and retreat options.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Well, I can tell you that Theo will never surrender. He will rather die than do that.

[AussieGiant]

Hi there guy's!!

I hope all is well in the land of Byzantium and intrigue.

I've just had the pleasure of spending the weekend in Istanbul and I managed to visit the:

Hagia Sophia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Sophia

SultanAhmet Mosque (Blue Mosque) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_...que_(Istanbul)

and the Hippodrome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippodr...Constantinople

We then managed a trip on the Bosporus and eat like kings for three days...

...all I can say is wow!!

It's something else entirely, to actually see the places this game is being played in. To stand in the Hagia Sophia and look around the inside and hear the history of what has taken place over the last 1600 years was incredible.

To me it is still an impressive feat of collaboration to have so many people recreating the feel and atmosphere of what it would be like to be a noble at this period of time...the level of involvement, organisation, negotiations, it's seems nearly real to me.

So...with that said, the reality is that I am unable to continue in any real significant capacity with this game and would therefore like to withdraw.

I'd like to thank you all for your participation and sharing your time with me, I look forward to reading with great interest the on going story of the "Last of the Romans".

Take it easy guys.

Cheers
AG.

[Ramses II CP]

It's always been a pleasure AG. Come back when you can.

[TinCow]

So...with that said, the reality is that I am unable to continue in any real significant capacity with this game and would therefore like to withdraw.

I'd like to thank you all for your participation and sharing your time with me, I look forward to reading with great interest the on going story of the "Last of the Romans".

I'm very sorry to hear that, AG, though with your recent travel schedule I'm not surprised. Make sure you keep in touch though, this place wouldn't be the same without you!

[AussieGiant]

Hi TC, Ramses,

Thank guy's. I'll be around and will be reading regularly.

In many ways I need a break from the game, going from one to another was a little too much.

[GeneralHankerchief]

AG, it's been an amazing ride these past two years. As previously expressed, this place won't be the same without you. I'll miss ya, man.

To everyone else, sorry for the delay. Midterms today.

[Ituralde]

Not that it was entirely unexpected to hear you withdraw AG. I hope you take the time to refresh and come back once more with new vigour. You have been a great addition to these games and I hope we haven't heard the last of you!

[GeneralHankerchief]

All right, we have some combat to be resolved this turn and it may get complicated, as you'll see once I make the umpire notes public. Right now, we're waiting on Zim.

[AussieGiant]

Thanks GH and Ituralde.

I'm looking forward to a break...some Empire TWarring and then perhaps the next game...

[Cecil XIX]

Your presence is sorely missed, AG. Here's hoping you'll come back soon.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Aussie, just like the others I hope you join us again!

GH, when will the next turn in the Battle of Edessa coming up?

[GeneralHankerchief]

As soon as Zim's finished with it. Hopefully this will be in a few hours, as tomorrow is my birthday and I'll probably be playing ETW for most of the day (what a great coincidence, eh? ).

If it doesn't work out like that, I'm sure I'll find time to get it done tomorrow. I don't want the game on hold for too long.

[Zim]

It took me some time since a power surge wiped my computer clean the other day, but the tests are pretty much done, results likely to be up tomorrow sometime tomorrow.

[Cecil XIX]

In retrospect, it's a happy coincidence that Empire's been released when we're taking an intermission in LOTR via this battle.