The Quincux Formation video explanation!!!

**dejan07** · 07-31-2008, 16:42

I was searching how Roman legions really worked and i think this is the best explanation i ever found

http://home.zonnet.nl/richardevers2000/Formations3.htm

Would that be possible in Rtw engine?

**dejan07** · 07-31-2008, 16:50

On this page you can also find numerous other formations from Greeks,Macedonians and others.
Here is the link:

http://home.zonnet.nl/richardevers2000/Warart.htm

**Warmaster Horus** · 07-31-2008, 19:57

Cool, nice site.

Would that be possible in Rtw engine?

I sometimes try it with EB, and it fails, often because my units don't respond well enough, but also because sometimes they're just so pinned down or under attack that it's practically suicidal.
I also usually give up, because when the first line is drawn, my cavalry has usually flanked the foe easily, and so I go for an all-out attack with my principes, triarii, rorarii and whatnot. Which ends the battle much, much, much faster.
So, really, I don't think so. The computer would have to be able to manage it for the engine to be able to simulate it, and the comp I think cannot.

**satalexton** · 07-31-2008, 20:07

=/ this does work well on the RTW engine, if u do slight adjustsments to suit the engine...

It is so effective infact, when used properly, I can literally cleave the enemy centre into sections when it's the principe's turn for the mosh pit, then a rout when my regrouped hastati move forward to flank these isolated sections.

**dejan07** · 07-31-2008, 21:52

Actually when i said engine i thought of ai behavior.Will be possible to implement that in descr_formations_ai.txt somehow?Because i know that RTW is very limited.

**QuintusSertorius** · 07-31-2008, 23:31

I don't think the video is actually correct. Sure that's one possible interpretation of manipular tactics, but disengaging while in contact with the enemy is difficult bordering on almost impossible. Even in the lulls between combat, it's a recipe for men fleeing.

**zooeyglass** · 08-01-2008, 01:45

Originally Posted by satalexton

=/ this does work well on the RTW engine, if u do slight adjustsments to suit the engine...

It is so effective infact, when used properly, I can literally cleave the enemy centre into sections when it's the principe's turn for the mosh pit, then a rout when my regrouped hastati move forward to flank these isolated sections.

i've been finding that a simple shift+3 on a grouped selection of hastati/principes sets them up in a fairly effective 2 line formation, excellent for the second line to pepper javelins over the heads of the front line, as they (the front line) engage with the enemy. doesn't always work, and can lead to some envelopment, but is a fairly standard formation for me, with archers behind and cavalry flanking.