Composition hellenistic armies

[konny]

There is a generic formation that applies to most organized armies in history:

- Spearmen and other heavy infantry in the centre
- Missile units (and sometimes light cavalry) ahead of the main formation
- Light units and cavalry on the wings

[Che Roriniho]

There is a generic formation that applies to most organized armies in history:

- Spearmen and other heavy infantry in the centre
- Missile units (and sometimes light cavalry) ahead of the main formation
- Light units and cavalry on the wings

Cheers. As thanks, have a Che Roriniho Biscuit of Excellence.

[konny]

I have set up some armies with EB units using the DBA compostions. I think, the results are quite reasonable. (units in a line mean "either"; not all possible units for each class are listed)

Early Karthagian


Later Karthagian


Getai/Thrakian


Generic Eastern (Pontos, Armenia etc)


KH early


KH Eastern


KH Later


KH Western


Ptolemaian


Seleucide



EDIT: And some more:

Epeiros


Armenia


Makedonia


Baktria/Indo-Greek


Pontos (Hellenic)

[Dutchhoplite]

Wow, looks good Konny :)

[Che Roriniho]

I have set up some armies with EB units using the DBA compostions. I think, the results are quite reasonable. (units in a line mean "either"; not all possible units for each class are listed)
Early Karthagian


Later Karthagian


Getai/Thrakian


Generic Eastern (Pontos, Armenia etc)


KH early


KH Eastern


KH Later


KH Western


Ptolemaian


Seleucide



EDIT: And some more:

Epeiros


Armenia


Makedonia


Baktria/Indo-Greek


Pontos (Hellenic)

Why do you always have to be so much better than anyone else Konny? Now, Formations, FIND!

EDIT: I might edit these slightly so they suit more the limited Formations I have.

[Dutchhoplite]

Besides the one Konny mentioned i don´t think there are standard formations

For example: at gabiene (315 BC) Antigonus massed his heavy Thracian cavalry, elephants, light infantry and skirmishers on his right and advanced against Eumenes, while refusing his ''center'' infantry and his very small force of light horse on his far left flank.

So you could say that the Antigonid infantry actually formed his left flank ;)

Eumenes basicly used the same formation...

[Che Roriniho]

Besides the one Konny mentioned i don´t think there are standard formations

For example: at gabiene (315 BC) Antigonus massed his heavy Thracian cavalry, elephants, light infantry and skirmishers on his right and advanced against Eumenes, while refusing his ''center'' infantry and his very small force of light horse on his far left flank.

So you could say that the Antigonid infantry actually formed his left flank ;)

Eumenes basicly used the same formation...

Yeh, but I mean like the standard formation - The romans had the quincux, The Maks had the Alexandros Phalanx, but whatdid, for example, Qartadastim use?

[konny]

Historical formations need not to be the best for a game like EB anyways. For example I get the best out of Camillan Romans when using the Triarii as a Hoplites Phalanx in the centre and the Hastati as flankers. Also playing the Romans I got very good results using somewhat Alexandrian tactics in Spain with a massive cavalry attack on one wing.

EDIT: Charthagians used the Tactics of the army they had copied I would guess. That would be Greek Hoplite for the early army (of this is hardly anything known) and Successor style for the late army (yes, we all know about the exception at Cannae).

[Che Roriniho]

Historical formations need not to be the best for a game like EB anyways. For example I get the best out of Camillan Romans when using the Triarii as a Hoplites Phalanx in the centre and the Hastati as flankers. Also playing the Romans I got very good results using somewhat Alexandrian tactics in Spain with a massive cavalry attack on one wing.

EDIT: Charthagians used the Tactics of the army they had copied I would guess. That would be Greek Hoplite for the early army (of this is hardly anything known) and Successor style for the late army (yes, we all know about the exception at Cannae).

Thanks, you're more useful than a Brothel in an office. Have a Che Roriniho Biscuit of Excellence.