terrorists beware

[LittleGrizzly]

Wasn't this the guy that was transporting surface to air missiles in his car when he was caught at a checkpoint?

Right now this is something, transporting such missles for aq is clearly a crime that should be punished

Right, I've seen no evidence nor even the accusation that he was waterboarded or anything of the like.

When you take someone to a camp where the american goverment have pushed to be allowed enhanced interigation, what do you expect people to think, the american goverment made this mess for themselves by allowing such methods and calling them legal, i would assume anyone taking to one of saddam torture dungeons was tortured like any sensible person, i would also assume anyone taken to an american torture camp was tortured... like any sensible person...

the judge in the case threw out several statements made by Hamdan that he determined to be coerced.

So the judge also believes enhanced methods were used ? or were they coerced through legal means, people seem to be getting annoyed with all my assumptions so ill wait for an answer before i go off on a rant here...

To the first part, I don't believe he's likely to see a life sentence- I'd bet more like 20 years.... which I guess in some countries is considered a life sentence, but no by US standards.

It is hard to know what is meant by life sentence, for the rest of his life did seem too much (before the info about the missles which ill assume is correct....)

[PBI]

When you take someone to a camp where the american goverment have pushed to be allowed enhanced interigation, what do you expect people to think, the american goverment made this mess for themselves by allowing such methods and calling them legal, i would assume anyone taking to one of saddam torture dungeons was tortured like any sensible person, i would also assume anyone taken to an american torture camp was tortured... like any sensible person...

This is the problem really, with the US administration's relaxed attitude to torture it has forever destroyed the legitimacy of its war on terror. I can no more accept at face value the assurances that torture was not used than I can accept Mugabe's assurances that his elections are fair.

That said, it seems pretty clear the guy was a member of Al Qaeda. And let's be clear, if I was to agree to do work for a criminal organisation for no better reason than because it was well payed I should expect to go to prison if caught. The problem is simply that it's hard to see how the trial can be fair.

sleep deprivation? Boo-Hoo.

Let's be quite clear about this: Sleep deprivation is torture, and is defined as such under international law. If you do it long enough, it will cause psychological damage and eventually death.