Che Roriniho's Unofficial EB Manual Project

[Lysimachos]

To show some interest, i have a few - more cosmetic - suggestions:

For text that exceeds single lines you should use full justification, looks nicer and somehow more professional, in my opinion.
Sentence 2 in the introduction says: '[...]almost all the data in has been changed[...]'. I suspect there should be an 'it' or something similar behind the 'in'.
In sentence 4 in the introduction you use different tenses to describe what EB changes: 'expands' <-> 'added, made'.

English is not my first language, but i try :) Good luck with this project, anyway. I'll have a look now and then and perhaps will be able to make a more useful contribution eventually.

[Che Roriniho]

To show some interest, i have a few - more cosmetic - suggestions:

For text that exceeds single lines you should use full justification, looks nicer and somehow more professional, in my opinion.
Sentence 2 in the introduction says: '[...]almost all the data in has been changed[...]'. I suspect there should be an 'it' or something similar behind the 'in'.
In sentence 4 in the introduction you use different tenses to describe what EB changes: 'expands' <-> 'added, made'.

English is not my first language, but i try :) Good luck with this project, anyway. I'll have a look now and then and perhaps will be able to make a more useful contribution eventually.

Thanks. This is, as youy can probably see, very much in the beta stages. I'm awaiting quite a large amount of writing from stupac, which should double the total pages.

That introduction will also probably be replaced by the time v0.1 comes out.

[Tartaros]

Hello Che Roriniho,
good idea and real respect for your work! if do all the points in your list you don´t have much time left to play eb.

i´ve got a remark/question:
are you shure that a camillian roman army fought in manipular tactic? i think that this professionell formation couldn´t be practised by a levi-army.
imho the polybian-reforms was the beginning to break up the standart-phalanx style combats.
like delbrück says: the characteristic of early roman style is "the mass of peopel" that works like a bulldoser (lock at cannae).

so the polybian-reforms, in knowing the mistakes of the first punic war reformed the unorganized camillian bulldoser into a more flexible formation, but still in three/four lines.
if you look at the battle of zama you can see the learningprocess and the more ability of roman dicipline.




i think manipular-tactics need a lot of dicipline and professional training (no levi-army can do this), also clear commands and the belief of strengh and confidence in the other comrades in arms.

[Che Roriniho]

Hello Che Roriniho,
good idea and real respect for your work! if do all the points in your list you don´t have much time left to play eb.

i´ve got a remark/question:
are you shure that a camillian roman army fought in manipular tactic? i think that this professionell formation couldn´t be practised by a levi-army.
imho the polybian-reforms was the beginning to break up the standart-phalanx style combats.
like delbrück says: the characteristic of early roman style is "the mass of peopel" that works like a bulldoser (lock at cannae).

so the polybian-reforms, in knowing the mistakes of the first punic war reformed the unorganized camillian bulldoser into a more flexible formation, but still in three/four lines.
if you look at the battle of zama you can see the learningprocess and the more ability of roman dicipline.




i think manipular-tactics need a lot of dicipline and professional training (no levi-army can do this), also clear commands and the belief of strengh and confidence in the other comrades in arms.

Glad you like it, I just hope I manage to do all that I want to. There's actually a lot more I would like to do than is in the todo list. Hopefully by the end of this, it will be utterly gorgeous, and in the style of the rest of EB as well.

They took the manipular tactics from the Samnites, who had developed them ages before. remember, EB starts about 500 years after Rome was founded, and their Army had moved accordingly. They did, as you may have seen if you've played the quincux in EB, attacking is difficult, as you can effectively only fight on 1 front. Which is why Cannae worked. The Romans moved their quincux to what they persieved as a weak point in the Carthaginian lines, which is what Hannibal intended, and we all know what happened next.

[Tartaros]

probably i use the wrong word for the tactic, i mean the in german called "treffentaktik" - don´t know the english spelling for it.
i think that the "treffentaktik" is a better developed form of the manipular-tactic, but not developed in cammilian times. you know, i mean the chess-board

[Che Roriniho]

probably i use the wrong word for the tactic, i mean the in german called "treffentaktik" - don´t know the english spelling for it.
i think that the "treffentaktik" is a better developed form of the manipular-tactic, but not developed in cammilian times. you know, i mean the chess-board

The Camillan's used something similar, but I agree, it did change considerably with Polybus. I think the 'chess-board' formation best serves the purpose, at least for now.

[Che Roriniho]

v0.0.5 Should be out by friday. If this thing is going to go somewhere, then I really do need help. Please. It's only small things, but quite a lot of them, too much for me at the moment. I'm doing as much as I can, but it's going slowly, and I can't keep a my current pace for fear of losing my sanity.

[Lysimachos]

A polybian army is exactly as levy as a camillan army, so that doesn't mean much.