http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_RichelieuOriginally Posted by SwedishFish
Re: Gustavus Adolphus the Great
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_Richelieu
Re: Gustavus Adolphus the Great
Given that the French had never had much issue about allying with the Ottomans to outflank the Hapsburgs... (and conversely the Hapsburgs cheerfully allied with the Persians to outflank the Ottomans...)
Realpolitik.
It incidentally occurs to me that this thread's title is quite possibly the first time ever I've seen the moniker "the Great" tagged onto ole Gustavus II Adolphus... which isn't really surprising, as his achievements weren't really those rulers generally earned the title with.
Last edited by Watchman; 12-22-2008 at 20:32.
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Re: Gustavus Adolphus the Great
He's one of my heroes.
I don't know how much of a Leader he was when it came to ruling nations, but fighing wise, he was a genius in my opinion.
Re: Gustavus Adolphus the Great
Yeah the book I'm looking at doesn't mention "the Great" as a title.
Realpolitik, exactly.
Re: Gustavus Adolphus the Great
Swedish Parliament gave the distinction in 1634.
HOW ABOUT 'DEM VIKINGS
-Martok
Re: Gustavus Adolphus the Great
AKA "posthumous brownnosing". Doesn't mean much. The sobriquet "the Great" is one of those that only sticks by sufficiently widely and lastingly recognised, sufficient merit.
Put this way, when was the last time a historian worth something called the guy by that title ?
"Let us remember that there are multiple theories of Intelligent Design. I and many others around the world are of the strong belief that the universe was created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster. --- Proof of the existence of the FSM, if needed, can be found in the recent uptick of global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters. Apparently His Pastaness is to be worshipped in full pirate regalia. The decline in worldwide pirate population over the past 200 years directly corresponds with the increase in global temperature. Here is a graph to illustrate the point."
-Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
Re: Gustavus Adolphus the Great
I don't see what the big deal is anyway. A lot of rulers have been referred to, and known for, their title "The Great".
HOW ABOUT 'DEM VIKINGS
-Martok
Re: Gustavus Adolphus the Great
Well I think Watchman is stating that Gustavus Adolphus, was not known for the title "The great". And according to the book I have it's not stated either.
Now it's simply a technicality, but nonetheless...
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