A case for the removal of the Augustan Reforms!

[The Celtic Viking]

I must agree with the OP. Considering that only a very few human players ever get them, and you might as well look for the sky to drop down if you think the AI ever could, it hardly seems economical (or fair) to keep them.

[Lysandros]

I completely agree with Remco's position.

[Pinkkiller]

remove praetorian cohort?! no way.....don't remove the praetorians..the others idc about

[Quilts]

I too agree.

It's one thing I've always wondered about. For so much of the campaign your 'playing' the Romani as a Republic. The Republics goal was to maintain the Republic, not become an Empire.....anything but one man in total control (a King!)

Perhaps the threat of becoming an Empire could be worked into the Romani victory conditions as an ever present and increasing leap to defeat for the player, rather than a goal? How? I can't imagine.....

Cheers,

Quilts

[Connacht]

Although I like the Romans and playing custom battles with Imperial units, I agree with the opinions showed here.
Anyway, before removing a unit I would always think "have I completely filled any slot?", then if I need to add some units and I have no more space I will remove unnecessary ones.

However, the nasty thing in this is that I know some Italian fanboys who would get mad even by only hearing of this idea (for instance I did read also opinions of a modder who "dislikes" EB that would cast the worst deadly curses in the world to EB authors if he would notice that the holy-sacred-untouchable-mighty-superior-ubermenschlich-omg-i'm cumming-onlyreasonforallowingagameinthishistoricaltimetoexist-dreamy-ahweehmahweh Imperial legions have been removed), so I'm already imaging the flame wars...

[Warmaster Horus]

People have already said that the EB team disregards or doesn't like or is hostile to the Roman faction. Which obviously is wrong, seeing the work that went into that faction.

I agree with the OP. And if people don't like the absence of imperial Rome, it can still be modded in, afterwards, by removing units from other factions (how likely is Rome to fight the Saka? honestly?).

[Tellos Athenaios]

Although I like the Romans and playing custom battles with Imperial units, I agree with the opinions showed here.
Anyway, before removing a unit I would always think "have I completely filled any slot?", then if I need to add some units and I have no more space I will remove unnecessary ones.

However, the nasty thing in this is that I know some Italian fanboys who would get mad even by only hearing of this idea (for instance I did read also opinions of a modder who "dislikes" EB that would cast the worst deadly curses in the world to EB authors if he would notice that the holy-sacred-untouchable-mighty-superior-ubermenschlich-omg-i'm cumming-onlyreasonforallowingagameinthishistoricaltimetoexist-dreamy-ahweehmahweh Imperial legions have been removed), so I'm already imaging the flame wars...

I was going to post it but I decided that it's more fun if I queried Google for my reply + 'definition'. See?

EDIT: And my reply wasn't the title you see there. <_<

[Rodrico Stak]

I have to say I agree with the OP. Considering that I've never made it to the Marian reforms, let alone the Augustan reforms, I can safely say that I wouldn't notice anything, not really. And just from my experience, I think that most people will never see the Augustan reforms unless they start from the beginning with that goal in mind.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone here actually reached the Augustan reforms?

[Warmaster Horus]

Not me. The Gods know I tried, though. Many times. My 15 or so Romani games prove it.

Boredom always got me, though.

[Connacht]

I was going to post it but I decided that it's more fun if I queried Google for my reply + 'definition'. See?

EDIT: And my reply wasn't the title you see there. <_<

And so? Simply I agree with the OP but I also fear that some players would be unhappy - without reason, since I really support the EB project.