Need Romani vs. Sweboz tips.

[AlexanderSextus]

i had a Full Stack sweboz army attack mediolanum. I sent a consular army to attack it.
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I was using the standard recruitment of:
1 Velites

2 hastati

1 Allied infantry (Hastati Samnitici)

2 Principes

1 Triarii

1 Pedites Extrordinarii

I think i also had a Hippeis, and some Equites Romani, oh, and a unit of Peltastai. There may have been some Curoas there too, i'm not exactly sure. It was like 3/4 of a full stack.

Long story short, I was Using the quincunx. I attacked w/the hastati, then the princs, and i used the hastati to fill gaps in the Princs line. The skirmishers also made a good account of themselves before the charge. The hastati and peltastai routed and i resorted to the Triarii and Extrordinarii. i flanked with the cavalry and the General. Eventually the cavalry routed, but i used my general to get the hastati to come back. Then the princs routed and i charged again with the hastati and the general. The hastati routed again and the general's entire bodyguard was killed whereupon i told him to withdraw. They eventually surrounded my triarii, and fought them to the last man and won.

I need to know how to fight these guys, They had like 5 units of Appea Gaedotos, 3 units of Germanic Swordsman, a unit of Germanic Spearman, 1 unit of Light Germanic cavalry (Ridenz?), a unit of Greman levy spearman, a unit of Germanic Skirmishers and a couple Iosatae.

Should i Change my tactics when i fight the Sweboz? if so, How?

Every other time i have used the Quincunx, say against the Aedui or Qarthadastim, or Epeiros, it worked great. Why not vs. the Sweboz?


oh, and dont worry, they didnt get Medio. After they defeated my consular army, i sent a full stack of Greek/Sardinian auxilia and as soon as i got to the battlefield they turned and ran. They may have defeated my Legion but i took a big chunk out of their warband.

[Legosoldier]

I suggest letting your troops absorb the charge before flanking with idle infantry before repeatedly charging with cavalry. you should bring more missile units and another family member or cavalry. But my advice is probably not the best as I don't have any experience against fighting full stacks of sweboz...

[Megas Methuselah]

Recruit some German units and give them a taste of their own medicine!

[||Lz3||]

last time I played against sweboz their armies were full of levies... <.<

It was fun to rout them all though I lost 600 men...them...1985...

large unit size

[Connacht]

Every time I fight Sweboz with the Romans I always send forward a large line of infantry: in the centre pedites extraordinari (better defense), on the wings hastati, second line principes (triarii are in the back and on the end of the wings, ready for entering in any gap if there are are cavalry enemies or too many soldiers that may overrun my men). The first line screens the enemy, the second line divides in two group and attacks the enemy on the flanks and on the rear.
Cavalry may charge from the rear and/or kill retreating enemies. If there are any allied units (often Alpine phalanx or Rhaetic axemen, because I like them) they can support the first line in screening the enemy or can flank them.
On medium difficulty the battle usually ends with a few casualties for me and almost the entire enemy army destroyed.

[Space_Ed]

Hi I've literally just taken all the german provinces west the Sweboz home province. The first time I attacked one of their bases I was shocked by a crushing defeat. Usually I massacre my opponents.

So I switched tactics. The key to destroying them is to not play fair. So I try to not engage them until all my missiles have been used up. This includes pilae. They have weak armour and die easily against missiles. One of their main strengths is that many of their generals are immense. When theyve got one of their amazing generals commanding they fight to the death. SO if you find an opportunity take out their general.

A good Sweboz chomping army would be 4 units of experienced Gallic slingers. All the rest extraordinari except 4 units of polybian equites plus a very good commander with a lot of stars. That should crush any Sweboz army.

[Majd il-Romani]

i had a Full Stack sweboz army attack mediolanum.

psh I wish that my sweboz weren't so lazy. In my game they haven't moved an inch since like 270 BC
they have 2 armies outside their starting citiy that have been there for like 50 years