A Catholic Case Against Obama

[ICantSpellDawg]

Oh, and now there are McCain people saying he doesn't want to overturn Roe v. Wade. Who knew?

Going back to 1999, John McCain did an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle saying that overturning Roe v. Wade would not make any sense, because then women would have to have illegal abortions.

People didn't really understand what overturning Roe would do. McCain has corrected that position.

Roe was a bad decision and anyone who believes in democracy can see that to overturn it doesn't make abortion illegal - it just defaults the laws to applical federal and then to the States themselves until we can work on a middle ground. It is a false arguement to say that an overturn of Roe is the same as making abortion illegal.

Roe was a cynical decision because Europeans managed to figure the issue out so that it left the spotlight - while American justices believed U.S. citizens were incapable of legislating a mediated solution. They put their belief in democracy on hold to satiate their fascination with judicial activism. That first decision is why you will suffer people like me until you help rectify the situation. If yuo want to stop hearing about it - help us overturn it so that our laws can look more like European ones.

[TB666]

If yuo want to stop hearing about it - help us overturn it so that our laws can look more like European ones.

Meaning free abortions to girls under 18 and free condoms and birth controls pills ??
Yes works wonders here .
Won't in the US tho.

[CountArach]

People didn't really understand what overturning Roe would do. McCain has corrected that position.

A shift to the centre, if you will? Why can't Obama get away with the exact same excuse...?

[rory_20_uk]

First off: I'm pro abortion up to I'd say 20 weeks. My enthusiasm does significantly drop off after 12 (c'mon! 3 missed periods - isn't this a slight clue???)

But what is the logic of these extreme end of pregnancy abortions being legal?

[CountArach]

First off: I'm pro abortion up to I'd say 20 weeks. My enthusiasm does significantly drop off after 12 (c'mon! 3 missed periods - isn't this a slight clue???)

But what is the logic of these extreme end of pregnancy abortions being legal?

Alright, let me preface my post by saying I am undecided on third trimester abortions (though leaning illegal except in the usually excepted cases - ie rape). I believe that the rationale behind it is the same as the rationale behind being pro-choice in the first place. Regardless of the age of the foetus it is still undeniably the woman's body and her reproductive rights. Hence, the woman still may do as she wishes with the foetus because it isn't anyone else's right to do so.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Something I've noticed from what little I see of Obama in the UK news is that he doesn't seem to talk with much respect to women. He always seems to be calling them sweetie or something like that.

[CountArach]

Something I've noticed from what little I see of Obama in the UK news is that he doesn't seem to talk with much respect to women. He always seems to be calling them sweetie or something like that.

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Some people didn't like it and took it in a way that was not intended...

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Catholics should love him...

I take that as a personal insult. As a Catholic, I find the lack of chivalry shown towards women these days disgusting.

I blame feminism.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Catholics should love him...

That is a bigoted and baseless statement. Are Catholics particularly known for their misogyny in Australia, more so than the general populace?

[HoreTore]

But what is the logic of these extreme end of pregnancy abortions being legal?

Some of the logic behind it is when a pregnancy goes bad, and the best way out for everyone is a late abortion.