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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    An interesting take. Go ahead and admit it (if only to yourself)—she would have been a horrible President.
    Horrible? Maybe. At least she would've been president.

    Clinton and Louis are correct: Obama is unelectable. I predict Denver will be one big show of lament for what could've been: a democratic president. By 2012, a distant memory, something younger Americans will only know from the history books.


    America says Obama can keep the change:

    In a sharp turnaround, Republican John McCain has opened a 5-point lead on Democrat Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race and is seen as a stronger manager of the economy, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.

    McCain leads Obama among likely U.S. voters by 46 percent to 41 percent, wiping out Obama's solid 7-point advantage in July and taking his first lead in the monthly Reuters/Zogby poll.
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    I'm of the opinion that either McCain or Obama would be better, more moderate leaders than Senator Clinton. So I'm happy all around. Her and Rudy were the two candidates who gave me serious heebie-jeebies.

    By comparison, I find the attempts by the left to portray McCain as a rightist idiot who will equate a third Bush term to be silly. And I find the right's attempt to paint Obama as ... lord, I lose track of all of the mutually contradictory calumnies they're throwing his way, anyway, I find that attempt equally contemptible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Aha! A chance for my collection of obscure polling results to shine! Some of the latest national results are:
    Gallup Daily - Obama winning 45-43
    Rasmussen Daily - Obama winning 47-46
    New York Times - Obama winning 45-42
    Wall Street Journal - Obama winning 45-42
    Louisiana Times - Obama winning 45-43
    Zogby (The one you posted) - McCain winning 46-41
    Quinnipiac University - Obama winning 47-42
    Lake/Tarrence - McCain winning 47-46
    Fox News - Obama winning 42-39
    YouGov/Economist - Obama winning 39-38

    So the race is still a statistical tie, with Obama perhaps winning by a point or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Aha! A chance for my collection of obscure polling results to shine! Some of the latest national results are:
    Gallup Daily - Obama winning 45-43
    Rasmussen Daily - Obama winning 47-46
    New York Times - Obama winning 45-42
    Wall Street Journal - Obama winning 45-42
    Louisiana Times - Obama winning 45-43
    Zogby (The one you posted) - McCain winning 46-41
    Quinnipiac University - Obama winning 47-42
    Lake/Tarrence - McCain winning 47-46
    Fox News - Obama winning 42-39
    YouGov/Economist - Obama winning 39-38

    So the race is still a statistical tie, with Obama perhaps winning by a point or two.
    All you have to do is read the polls in 2004. Kerry was up by 15 at this point. Most people polled are in heavily demcrat areas. Obamamessiah will have to wait for a third comming I guess...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    All you have to do is read the polls in 2004. Kerry was up by 15 at this point. Most people polled are in heavily demcrat areas. Obamamessiah will have to wait for a third comming I guess...
    No he wasn't:
    Proof
    In 2004, Kerry slowly built a 2 point lead by this time, and held a small lead through much of the summer. But then the race took a sharp turn, with Bush making a 6 point run, taking a four point lead with 50 days to go. Kerry gained back 3 points of that in the polling, but less than 2 points of it in the actual vote, losing by a 2.4 point margin.
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    No he wasn't:
    Proof
    Hmmm, well, who won?
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    Way to dodge admitting you were just proved factually wrong, DevDave. You just keep dancing, pretty girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Way to dodge admitting you were just proved factually wrong, DevDave. You just keep dancing, pretty girl.
    No, I was completely wrong, thats why I'm doin the Texas two step!!!
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