NSFW area?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Since the tavern is shut down due to negativity and such (which i think is such bull) can someone create a NSFW forum with a disclaimer to seperate the EB team from some peoples opinions?

[Hooahguy]

i dont know, but i dont think i can come back to these forums in my right mind anymore....
see ya'll, its been fun....

[Che Roriniho]

I agree with both of you, comrades. Hooahguy, do you want help taking the barrels out, and removing that pilum that was thrown at the wall, and we have since been using to prop Appo up with?

Boo. Hiss.

I would certainly agree with a NSFW area.

[abou]

What do you mean it's bull? This is the EB forum, not your playhouse. There is a Backroom on the ORG for your meanderings. That is what it is there for. The EB forum is for the discussion of the mod and history.

[Hax]

I'm with abou here, for once.

For all your offtopic stuff, here. I liked the Tavern, but Foot was right in closing it.

[Bellum]

Check your link. :P

[a completely inoffensive name]

What do you mean it's bull? This is the EB forum, not your playhouse. There is a Backroom on the ORG for your meanderings. That is what it is there for. The EB forum is for the discussion of the mod and history.

I hate it when the reason things get shut down is "well people have been very rude to others and that makes us look bad so we have to close this down" why? those people are idiots. if you get insulted because you said something stupid maybe you should stop saying stupid things not just blame the EB team for being "a bunch of douches and very mean people".

[Che Roriniho]

What do you mean it's bull? This is the EB forum, not your playhouse. There is a Backroom on the ORG for your meanderings. That is what it is there for. The EB forum is for the discussion of the mod and history.

It is 100% Beef, because the entire reason the Tavern was set up was to keep the crappy questions/random crap out of the main forum. A filter, if you will. As to the accusations of us being insulting to new members, I say this:

Lulwut?

Where exactly was this insulting? If anything, it was the most welcoming of the forum, as it had a real atmosphere. Hooahguy was a fantastic Barkeep, and kept everyone in order.

Yes there was random crap in there, but that was kinda what it was for. The Backroom doesn't have the same atmosphere, nor is it EB only, unlike the Tavern, which results in the regulars becoming knowledgable in the inner workings and the faces of EB, which is something the Backroom could never do.

[Che Roriniho]

I hate it when the reason things get shut down is "well people have been very rude to others and that makes us look bad so we have to close this down" why? those people are idiots. if you get insulted because you said something stupid maybe you should stop saying stupid things not just blame the EB team for being "a bunch of douches and very mean people".

Ave, brother. This forum has become something of a second hme for me, mainly because of the subtle black humour of th Tav.

[abou]

The Tavern shouldn't have been there to begin with. It was a mistake to allow it in the first place, it was a mistake to reopen it, and it was a mistake to leave it going as long as we did.

[Bellum]

I hate it when the reason things get shut down is "well people have been very rude to others and that makes us look bad so we have to close this down" why? those people are idiots. if you get insulted because you said something stupid maybe you should stop saying stupid things not just blame the EB team for being "a bunch of douches and very mean people".

Seems to be a problem with your attitude. There is no reason to be rude to anyone, no matter your opinion of them.

[Che Roriniho]

The Tavern shouldn't have been there to begin with. It was a mistake to allow it in the first place, it was a mistake to reopen it, and it was a mistake to leave it going as long as we did.

Well, we're sorry for not conforming to your utopia of the EB forum being a second branch of the British Library: Full of history and wonderful things, but fundamentally dull and quiet.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Seems to be a problem with your attitude. There is no reason to be rude to anyone, no matter your opinion of them.

I don't see anything wrong with my attitude, and I disagree about being rude to people, the first thing I did when I came to the EB forums was read the FAQ and frequent issues, that is common courtesy towards everyone that posts here. If you cant show basic courtesy towards people by reading for 15 friggen minutes before opening your mouth then yes you deserve to be pelted by rude and sarcastic remarks.

[Che Roriniho]

I don't see anything wrong with my attitude, and I disagree about being rude to people, the first thing I did when I came to the EB forums was read the FAQ and frequent issues, that is common courtesy towards everyone that posts here. If you cant show basic courtesy towards people by reading for 15 friggen minutes before opening your mouth then yes you deserve to be pelted by rude and sarcastic remarks.

Or just generally showing basic courtesy in general. Reading is not needed.

[Bellum]

I don't see anything wrong with my attitude, and I disagree about being rude to people, the first thing I did when I came to the EB forums was read the FAQ and frequent issues, that is common courtesy towards everyone that posts here. If you cant show basic courtesy towards people by reading for 15 friggen minutes before opening your mouth then yes you deserve to be pelted by rude and sarcastic remarks.

So courtesy only counts toward yourself? You don't have to show anyone any courtesy to anyone else?

That's a very immature point of view, and if that was the norm in the tavern, it's no wonder it was shut down. A community needs to promote courtesy for it to be embraced. You can tell someone they are doing something wrong without being an ass.

[satalexton]

ahh the fall of the republic condensed into a modern day forum...Tiberius trying for another go at tribune, and the senate trying to keep their land-grabbing rights...

[Che Roriniho]

ahh the fall of the republic condensed into a modern day forum...Tiberius trying for another go at tribune, and the senate trying to keep their land-grabbing rights...

Exactly. Except I would similarie it more with the fall of Emperor Zhu Di. (Read 1421, NAO!)

@Bellum
I think you might have misread Mike's post. Mind you I had to read it a few times. But anyway, what he's saying is that you reap what you sow. If you charge headlong into our phalanx, there can be only one outcome.

[a completely inoffensive name]

So courtesy only counts toward yourself? You don't have to show anyone any courtesy to anyone else?

That's a very immature point of view, and if that was the norm in the tavern, it's no wonder it was shut down. A community needs to promote courtesy for it to be embraced. You can tell someone they are doing something wrong without being an ass.

I am not saying courtesy only counts towards myself, I am trying to show courtesy to you by not swearing like a madman but my point is how can you have a productive forum if all new people have absolutely no idea what the rules are. If you are gonna post, you need to read up on the FAQ at least before posting. Its like the EB forums have become a factory where all the new workers are breaking the machines and the higher management lets it all slide because they dont want a fight to break out among the workers or something. (where did i come up with this metaphor lol?)

[russia almighty]

Hey, how do you get into the back room anyway?

[Che Roriniho]

(where did i come up with this metaphor lol?)

The Luddite Rebellion.

But anyway. I can't see anyplausable reason against what Mike is suggesting. All it would require would be a seperate Sub-Forum, call it The Tavern, have a rules sticky, make Hoohaguy mod of that forum, and there is no other problems.

And RA, that's another reason for the Taven. The Backroom is inexpicably closed.

[russia almighty]

Could always set up an offsite board.

It'd take like 5 minutes just to set up a simple forum with one board if you don't care about colors.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Hey, how do you get into the back room anyway?

Go to "The Guild" main page, down to the misc. section, at the bottom of it should be "tavern" and then the 3rd subsection in that is "backroom".

[Hax]

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Hey, how do you get into the back room anyway?

PM one of the moderators there.

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Of course, the link I meant to give is here.

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Also, if I may quote Foot:

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This is the ORG board. These are private sub-forums; and the EB team has been granted to moderate these forums as it sees fit so long it remains within the ORG forums.

Henceforth, the EB Team will seriously consider at least temporarily banning repeating offenders for spamming or confrontational language. We also feel at liberty to delete posts which we find to be SPAM or confrontational. Furthermore, we are closing down the EB Tavern and any similar threads as they foster the type of behavior that we want to prevent from happening this board.

And threads like these seriously don't help.

[russia almighty]

I see nothing when I click on it.

[Bellum]

I think you might have misread Mike's post. Mind you I had to read it a few times. But anyway, what he's saying is that you reap what you sow. If you charge headlong into our phalanx, there can be only one outcome.

No, I understood that message perfectly well, and he's absolutely right. For every action there are consequences. For instance, if a thread is created that seems to promote rude behavior, a mod might come and lock it for going against the forums interests.

I am not saying courtesy only counts towards myself, I am trying to show courtesy to you by not swearing like a madman but my point is how can you have a productive forum if all new people have absolutely no idea what the rules are. If you are gonna post, you need to read up on the FAQ at least before posting. Its like the EB forums have become a factory where all the new workers are breaking the machines and the higher management lets it all slide because they dont want a fight to break out among the workers or something. (where did i come up with this metaphor lol?)

It actually works quite well. In every forum I've ever been a member. It can be annoying, sure, but there will always be people who either don't know to read the rules or don't know where to find them. Being rude, name calling, general bad will and attitudes, it only multiplies the problem.

[Che Roriniho]

Go to "The Guild" main page, down to the misc. section, at the bottom of it should be "tavern" and then the 3rd subsection in that is "backroom".

I couldn't get in. Besides, as I already said, it's like moving a real pub. All the faces have gone, you don't know anyone, and the atmosphere goes.

[satalexton]

...now all we need is a Ivlivs Caesar and a Cato to match...

how bout we start a different forum, and mark it as a 'EB-fans forum'?

[a completely inoffensive name]

It actually works quite well. In every forum I've ever been a member. It can be annoying, sure, but there will always be people who either don't know to read the rules or don't know where to find them. Being rude, name calling, general bad will and attitudes, it only multiplies the problem.

So it seems to me, that your opinion on the best solution for this problem is to not do anything?

[Megas Methuselah]

I see nothing when I click on it.

Yeah, me too. I couldn't make a new thread because I was denied access to it. So how are we to use the backroom?

[Bellum]

The best solution is, as always, to be polite, and treat everyone like human beings as they deserve.