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    BI.exe...
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    From my old Seleukeia campaign:


    I love playing with BI.exe, because usually around 220 bc onwards is when things get really insteresting, at least with naval invasions Those stacks came straight from Karthage and eight turns later they took Baikor and Arse.


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    BI.exe explains it all. I tried playing with it once but there were so many screw ups that I just played on Vanilla exe. As it is I've heard the AI also has a habit of constantly attacking with 3 unit stacks, so that put me off as well. I'd prefer it if there were full scale sea launched invasions or none at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recoil View Post
    BI.exe explains it all. I tried playing with it once but there were so many screw ups that I just played on Vanilla exe. As it is I've heard the AI also has a habit of constantly attacking with 3 unit stacks, so that put me off as well. I'd prefer it if there were full scale sea launched invasions or none at all.
    He's right. Most people are turned off by the medicore naval invasions at the onset of the game, but understand that most factions are not strong enough to mount a serious invasion (esp. by expensive boats) until the middle 200's B.C. At around that time, things get awfully serious at that point (try taking sicily or corsica from the cathaginians and you'll see what I mean).

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    That happened to me too, and I am not using the BI exe. Before 214 BCE the Carthaginians threatened me if I do not hand over Lillybaeum to them, of course I didn't take this as a serious threat, I was busy fighting the lusitanni as they invaded Gaul, and where going to unbalance the region, which I, as Rome, wanted to remain as it was, Aediu and Arverni fighting their civil war. Then in 214 BCE the hated foe landed a small army in Sicily and besiged Messana, the 2nd Punic war had began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathEmperor View Post
    I love playing with BI.exe, because usually around 220 bc onwards is when things get really insteresting, at least with naval invasions Those stacks came straight from Karthage and eight turns later they took Baikor and Arse.
    Yeah agreed, once you hit aound 220 things just pick up alot.

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    It really does get more serious after 220? I mean, I haven't experienced that with BI before but that's probably because I've never goten past that date
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    Wow. This actually makes me want to make another try at playing EB with BI. My previous attempt caused me to go back to the rtw.exe because it seemed to load RTW vanilla (or at least that's what the loading screen and main menu looked like). Maybe once I finish my Casse campaign, since I seriously doubt it is savegame compatible.
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    It isn't actually. If you have any issues, feel free to pm me and I'll give you a quick guide on how to enable BI with or without the extra features.

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    BI shines when you activate the "prefers naval invasions" setting. That increases the chances of proper naval invasions by far...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios View Post
    It really does get more serious after 220? I mean, I haven't experienced that with BI before but that's probably because I've never goten past that date
    It actually does, which is pretty ironic seeing as how so many factions were active from 220 - 200 bc historically from Antiochus III campaigns in Koele-Syria and the East to the Second Punic War.


    The main reason I think is because by that time in the campaign is because, the "chaff has been seperated from the wheat". The factions that are going to become dominant for the rest of the campaign (usually Karthage, Romani, Epeiros and the Grey or Yellow Death in my experience) have been decided and they now have enough resources at their disposal to field considerable armies and navies against the player and the other ai empires.

    The stacks that land from naval invasions also get much stronger and organized as time goes by. I was laughing before when Karthage kept landing stacks made up of Libyan spearmen and Corsican/Sardinian archers in the 260's to 230's in Italy. I wasn't laughing anymore, actually I was but I wouldn't if I was the Romani , when they started landing stacks filled up with Elite African Pikemen and Swordsmen and elephants in Italy and Spain


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathEmperor View Post
    It actually does, which is pretty ironic seeing as how so many factions were active from 220 - 200 bc historically from Antiochus III campaigns in Koele-Syria and the East to the Second Punic War.


    The main reason I think is because by that time in the campaign is because, the "chaff has been seperated from the wheat". The factions that are going to become dominant for the rest of the campaign (usually Karthage, Romani, Epeiros and the Grey or Yellow Death in my experience) have been decided and they now have enough resources at their disposal to field considerable armies and navies against the player and the other ai empires.

    The stacks that land from naval invasions also get much stronger and organized as time goes by. I was laughing before when Karthage kept landing stacks made up of Libyan spearmen and Corsican/Sardinian archers in the 260's to 230's in Italy. I wasn't laughing anymore, actually I was but I wouldn't if I was the Romani , when they started landing stacks filled up with Elite African Pikemen and Swordsmen and elephants in Italy and Spain
    Exactly! I'd laugh at what the Carthaginians sent to Corsica and Italy at first after immediately seizing them, but now... my goodness! I've got full stacks of Libyan spearman and elite pikemen at my shores every three to four turns. It is actually forcing (for the first time) to build a permanent navy and seek out enemy ships before they reach my shores. In fact naval dominance against Carthage is now a top security issue in my Romani Campaign with BI. Entirely new dimension added to the game. That alone encouraged me to quit alexander for a while.

    This is not a knock on Alex.exe, which is actually incredibly stable. Although their naval invasions are purely defensive, they are still extremely aggressive when they occur.

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