Poll: Should the Augustan Reforms be removed?

[The Celtic Viking]

So this is better: I think the Roman faction should be deleted and replaced by the Boii. After all, they existed in this time period. I know it is just an analogy, but a poor one it is.

No, its not a poor analogy. Here's your argument:

P1: EB's goal is to portray its time period in a historically accurate way.
P2: The Augustan units existed during EB's time period.
C: The Augustan units should therefore be in EB

Here's my analogy:

P1: EB's goal is to portay its time period in a historically accurate way.
P2: The Boii existed during EB's time period.
C: The Boii should therefore be in EB

They're exactly the same, and if EB had an infinite amount of resources, they would be correct. However, the resources are limited, so including the Boii would mean excluding another faction that existed historically, and including the Augustan units means excluding other units that existed historically. The argument you gave is obviously incapable of separating those who should be included from those who shouldn't, as it can be used for exactly every unit that existed in this time period. It needs a third premise, like this:

P1: EB's goal is to portray its time period in a historically accurate way.
P2: The Augustan units existed during EB's time period.
P3: The Augustan units are more important to include than any other possible candidates.
C: The Augustan units should therefore be in EB

However, that begs the question: why are they more important than any other possible candidates? It has been shown that they're not, because they have no practical impact in the game.

Okay, forget the new factions for the moment, what about the old ones?

What about them?

And The Celtic Viking, alot more people play EB than those on the forums, so I think there may be more than 5 people who reached the reforms.

Argument from ignorance.

P1: We don't know how many (if anyone at all) have gained the imperial reforms without reporting it.
C: Therefore ???

See? The only conclusion we can make out of that is that we don't know.

Also, you once again fail to mention the new units you want in the game, that is the whole point of your argument isn't it: The Augustans use up alot of unit slots which could be better used for other factions. Is it really that hard to just name a few units that you want in the game, and say what faction they belong to?

As I have told you already, I don't need to. The number of factions has increased by 10, but the possible amount of units we can have has not. They need their own units as well, so we can't waste the resources we have on units that are practically not even used, that don't bring anything new to the game, is hard to get and only available for a short time when most people have either given up the save or already won and belongs to a faction that has by far been given more resources than any other faction even without them.

I will also restate that it should be obvious to everyone that EB isn't portraying every non-Roman unit that it could have been portraying had the resources been infinite. To claim otherwise would be preposterous. If any of those would end up being used by more than 5 people if they were included in the game, I would say they're more important than the Augustan units because they bring more to the game.

Also once again, it is obivious that the Romans have the most of any faction but I don't think the EB team made it so by accident. There is alot more evidence left behind by Roman civilization than most factions, this may be why the Romans have the most. Look I am not trying to glorify Rome here, I would actually be okay if the August reforms were not in the game, but I think the timeline should be changed if that is the case. But if the end date remains 14AD I see no reason why the reforms should not be included. I think that we all can agree that the reforms were happening during post 27BC, and there should be no questioning this.

As Mein Panzer points out, this exact same argument can (and has been) used for the implementation of the Lorica Segmentata. However, the LS aren't in the game, either. Will you try to get that changed as well? Since you seem to believe that this is enough to include the Augustans, maybe you should.