Poll: Should the Augustan Reforms be removed?

**Phalanx300** · 12-09-2008, 17:38

I voted yes.

It would be better to spend those unit slots on the new factions.

**Megas Methuselah** · 12-09-2008, 19:15

Originally Posted by A Wise Man

The game for me is not just about historical accuracy, otherwise we would play it every time with the Romans and Parthians winning. We chose to play other factions from time to time in order to play a game of "what if". So maybe in this alternative history another faction takes over the Mediterannean world and (as an aside) the Roman culture is extinct by 170 BC?

And that's exactly what gets under my skin. It's good you spoke about this out loud, friend. I hope it serves to enlighten those Roman-centric kids who, for whatever odd reason, feel that the small, shabby village of Rome has a manifest destiny to rule the world...

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 12-10-2008, 00:42

It is true that if a different faction had succeeded they probably would have changed their military in some way, but EB does not / will not include fantasy or "what-if" units. Since the Romans lasted long enough to reform in reality, they get reforms in game.

The Augustan Reforms will almost certainly remain, but the Roman unit roster may have some cuts for EBII...

**a completely inoffensive name** · 12-10-2008, 01:01

Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

The Augustan Reforms will almost certainly remain, but the Roman unit roster may have some cuts for EBII...

I will wait for an official statement before I believe that, no offense. How can you have enough units for ten new factions with a limit of only 500 and not cut out units like the Augustan units? Unless you have opened up way more unit slots somehow then I would think possible, I just don't see how you can't make the cut.

**desert** · 12-10-2008, 01:28

Existing units would probably make up the majority of their rosters, with a couple of faction-specific units each. Like Pergamene hoplites and Pergamene bodyguards or whatever.

**MeinPanzer** · 12-10-2008, 09:07

Originally Posted by desert

Existing units would probably make up the majority of their rosters, with a couple of faction-specific units each. Like Pergamene hoplites and Pergamene bodyguards or whatever.

Why would Pergamene hoplites be added for EBII?

**Celtic_Punk** · 12-10-2008, 11:13

maybe because they are one of the new factions....

i dont think 10 new factions should be added tho... theres still the same amount of units. So unless we can get 10 factions that share most of the already existing units, and get rid of the augustan troops so some of those factions can have thier own factionals, there just wont be enough unit space.