Campaign Map screenies

[CBR]

At that time the elector of Saxony was also king of Poland.


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[Monk]

Provincial outlines seem to have been done away with on the minimap making it look a lot better - much easier to see the expanse of domains and empires now. The entire map seems to have been cleaned up and uncluttered from M2TW's - I like it. There's plenty of space between cities now which means much more field battles, and more opportunities for CA's new AI to shine (hopefully) and less sieges which I found fun in M2, but could also get very boring if that was all you were doing.

I definitely applaud a return to the Shogun/MTW-style mini-map

I agree. Something about having no provincial lines just makes your map look so much more... I can't think of a better word, so i'll use "authentic".

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

It's hard being a mud-slinging cynic sometimes.

[Celtic_Punk]

I hope you change the colour of the sea in the campaign minimap... I cannot see france.

[Aemilianus the Younger]

I dont want to be overly critical, because there is still plenty of time for edits to be made, but these screenshots give the overall feeling that i would be buying just an updated and slightly more complicated game than something like Imperial Glory.
I really liked the whole rumor about having multiple cities or settlements per province, but i guess these screenshots pretty much shot that one down.
We will see what they do. If anything, i am highly intrigued.
Id certainly like to see the map on a more global, or atleast partially global scale, Civ 4 world maps come to mind....

And yeah i agree, Poland is TOTALLY messed up.

[Gustav II Adolf]

I dont want to be overly critical, because there is still plenty of time for edits to be made, but these screenshots give the overall feeling that i would be buying just an updated and slightly more complicated game than something like Imperial Glory.
I really liked the whole rumor about having multiple cities or settlements per province, but i guess these screenshots pretty much shot that one down.
We will see what they do. If anything, i am highly intrigued.
Id certainly like to see the map on a more global, or atleast partially global scale, Civ 4 world maps come to mind....

And yeah i agree, Poland is TOTALLY messed up.

Poland has one region taken by Russia in those screens. CA commented on that somwhere. Otherwise I think the campign map looks better and more alive after seeing the land battle video. Still, I wish that some day CA will move away from the over all cartoonish style in TW games.



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[Polemists]

move away from the over all cartoonish style in TW games

Not really sure what you mean by this. Compared to games like Warcraft I never viewed TW games as Cartoonish. I mean they are probably not going to be crysis graphics in battles, but then again they are probably not going to turn the campaign map into some overly done design like google earth.

I always viewed TW games as very realistic, espically when I consider the other games out there.

Though maybe that's just me.

[Aemilianus the Younger]

Now that i think about it, there are only two things that upset me about looking the screenies.
Firstly, the whole seperate maps for each continent/region, really bothers me. It just doesnt seem right. I thout they did a decent to good job in MTW2 when the integrated the Americas. Why not build on that concept and add africa asia and maybe south america? beats me.
Secondly, there is a total emptiness feel to the campaign map. I really feel as though there needs to be more cities. A major concept in this era is the industrialization of Europe and the eastern coast of America, there should be more cities(especially when i look at the map of england), the entire Manchester/Liverpool/Sheffield/Leeds region is totally barren. I felt sure there would be atleast one if not two or three cities there. Same thing goes for the Ruhr in Germany. Just having two cities/provinces on the entirety of Mainland Britain baffles me.
What do you guys think? Was i just expecting the totally wrong thing from the new game?

[Herkus]

At that time the elector of Saxony was also king of Poland.


CBR

But they were in personal union, which doesn't mean one state. At the same time king of GB was also elector of Hanover (the same personal union), but we can clearly see that GB and Hanover are seperate states in map.

[woad&fangs]

fyi, you can get rid of provincial boundaries in Rome and M2 with about 3 minutes of modding. You just have to change the factions "secondary colour" to the same as it's "primary colour" in one of the descr files.

I think this is an early version of the map because there is a lack of objects on the map and CA said there would be a fair amount of them to give us objectives in a province outside of the main city.


I personally like the style and feel of the map.

edit: what's with the trophy symbol?

[Sheogorath]

But they were in personal union, which doesn't mean one state. At the same time king of GB was also elector of Hanover (the same personal union), but we can clearly see that GB and Hanover are seperate states in map.

Not until 1714, actually. Assuming the game starts in 1700, Poland and Saxony have the same leader.

[CBR]

But they were in personal union, which doesn't mean one state. At the same time king of GB was also elector of Hanover (the same personal union), but we can clearly see that GB and Hanover are seperate states in map.

I'm just stating the possible reason as to why CA would make them as one faction. Maybe there will be some limitations for the player.

George I (House of Hanover) became king of Great Britain in 1714. In 1700 the ruler would be William who was also Stadtholder of a major part of the Dutch republic.


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[darrin42]

Actually one more thing, I forgot to mention lol...hopefully someone can answer his for me. It was noted a while back, by one poster, that there exists no mention of official campaign map info, on the TW site, or on the Sega one...therefore we assume this was leaked, rather than released. However lets assume it is official...or at least quite close, to what the finished product will look like. Look on the map of Britian. Do you see what I see? To me, them two characters look like Agents. I thought there would'nt be any Agents..such as diplomats in this game.That it was part of the effect of not ''clustering'' up the map? And that all Diplomatic engagments were brought up, in some seperate menu...Anyone know anything? I Could be wrong, but this is what, we were told...I am certain

[Martok]

Well I have a strong hunch that the figures with flags over their heads are generals. I'm not sure who the figures in black are, however.

[Sheogorath]

Well I have a strong hunch that the figures with flags over their heads are generals. I'm not sure who the figures in black are, however.

Inquisitors of course ;)

[Csargo]

Well I have a strong hunch that the figures with flags over their heads are generals. I'm not sure who the figures in black are, however.

From the third screen shot they look like generals just kinda shaded. Maybe because they don't have any troops?

[Herkus]

I'm just stating the possible reason as to why CA would make them as one faction. Maybe there will be some limitations for the player.

George I (House of Hanover) became king of Great Britain in 1714. In 1700 the ruler would be William who was also Stadtholder of a major part of the Dutch republic.


CBR

Yes, I agree. But it will be wrong to not include personal union feature, otherwise Great Britain will own large chunk of Germany (Hannover) or whole Netherlands just because they have the same ruler. MEH!

[Mount Suribachi]

I really like it. Its recognisably TW, but also has the right "era" feel of a game like EUII

[darrin42]

Obviously I recognise, the Flag bearing units, as commanders...I was talking about the Black ones. And Ha-ha, they do actually look like the Inquisitors

[darrin42]

Plus Did anyone notice the Walled Citys??(Of course you did) I thought these were other things, which were to be done away with in Empire.