Campaign Map screenies

[Monk]

Provincial outlines seem to have been done away with on the minimap making it look a lot better - much easier to see the expanse of domains and empires now. The entire map seems to have been cleaned up and uncluttered from M2TW's - I like it. There's plenty of space between cities now which means much more field battles, and more opportunities for CA's new AI to shine (hopefully) and less sieges which I found fun in M2, but could also get very boring if that was all you were doing.

I definitely applaud a return to the Shogun/MTW-style mini-map

I agree. Something about having no provincial lines just makes your map look so much more... I can't think of a better word, so i'll use "authentic".

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

It's hard being a mud-slinging cynic sometimes.

[Celtic_Punk]

I hope you change the colour of the sea in the campaign minimap... I cannot see france.

[Aemilianus the Younger]

I dont want to be overly critical, because there is still plenty of time for edits to be made, but these screenshots give the overall feeling that i would be buying just an updated and slightly more complicated game than something like Imperial Glory.
I really liked the whole rumor about having multiple cities or settlements per province, but i guess these screenshots pretty much shot that one down.
We will see what they do. If anything, i am highly intrigued.
Id certainly like to see the map on a more global, or atleast partially global scale, Civ 4 world maps come to mind....

And yeah i agree, Poland is TOTALLY messed up.

[Gustav II Adolf]

I dont want to be overly critical, because there is still plenty of time for edits to be made, but these screenshots give the overall feeling that i would be buying just an updated and slightly more complicated game than something like Imperial Glory.
I really liked the whole rumor about having multiple cities or settlements per province, but i guess these screenshots pretty much shot that one down.
We will see what they do. If anything, i am highly intrigued.
Id certainly like to see the map on a more global, or atleast partially global scale, Civ 4 world maps come to mind....

And yeah i agree, Poland is TOTALLY messed up.

Poland has one region taken by Russia in those screens. CA commented on that somwhere. Otherwise I think the campign map looks better and more alive after seeing the land battle video. Still, I wish that some day CA will move away from the over all cartoonish style in TW games.



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[Polemists]

move away from the over all cartoonish style in TW games

Not really sure what you mean by this. Compared to games like Warcraft I never viewed TW games as Cartoonish. I mean they are probably not going to be crysis graphics in battles, but then again they are probably not going to turn the campaign map into some overly done design like google earth.

I always viewed TW games as very realistic, espically when I consider the other games out there.

Though maybe that's just me.

[Aemilianus the Younger]

Now that i think about it, there are only two things that upset me about looking the screenies.
Firstly, the whole seperate maps for each continent/region, really bothers me. It just doesnt seem right. I thout they did a decent to good job in MTW2 when the integrated the Americas. Why not build on that concept and add africa asia and maybe south america? beats me.
Secondly, there is a total emptiness feel to the campaign map. I really feel as though there needs to be more cities. A major concept in this era is the industrialization of Europe and the eastern coast of America, there should be more cities(especially when i look at the map of england), the entire Manchester/Liverpool/Sheffield/Leeds region is totally barren. I felt sure there would be atleast one if not two or three cities there. Same thing goes for the Ruhr in Germany. Just having two cities/provinces on the entirety of Mainland Britain baffles me.
What do you guys think? Was i just expecting the totally wrong thing from the new game?

[Polemists]

Well I think they said in a interview that thier goal was less micromanaging and more focus on overall decisions and battles. Which would lead you to imply you would spend less time going through every single city throughout all of England, but rather just focus on the major ones, and make Empire decisions.

In practice I'm pretty sure this will work like MTW2, where you are not controlling every minor village throughout Spain but rather major provinces, this time it's probably controlling central economic hubs.

Just my theory anyhoo, they are going for the less is more thing, to attract new players with less micromanaging.

[PBI]

Now that i think about it, there are only two things that upset me about looking the screenies.
Firstly, the whole seperate maps for each continent/region, really bothers me. It just doesnt seem right. I thout they did a decent to good job in MTW2 when the integrated the Americas. Why not build on that concept and add africa asia and maybe south america? beats me.
Secondly, there is a total emptiness feel to the campaign map. I really feel as though there needs to be more cities. A major concept in this era is the industrialization of Europe and the eastern coast of America, there should be more cities(especially when i look at the map of england), the entire Manchester/Liverpool/Sheffield/Leeds region is totally barren. I felt sure there would be atleast one if not two or three cities there. Same thing goes for the Ruhr in Germany. Just having two cities/provinces on the entirety of Mainland Britain baffles me.
What do you guys think? Was i just expecting the totally wrong thing from the new game?

I believe those cities didn't really become significant settlements until the Industrial Revolution, so perhaps when you build a Factory, it'll pop up in the region of Manchester or Birmingham.