Rebellions, and New Factions being Introduced

**darrin42** · 08-23-2008, 00:59

Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus

Hey, come on you posted this barely 5 hours ago... It's 1 am where I live, so logically some people are asleep. Give people time, since we're on a forum. And you already got some replies...

On topic, it would be nice if it worked that way, but I think it's not going to happen. If I recall correctly (and I'm not sure of this since I haven't been paying enough attention to the ETW previews) there are only 10 playable factions. If you included revolutions working like you propose, that number would not be accurate at all.
I think what that feature will be is a kind of civil war thing. Kind of like the War of Secession in America, but based on governmental ideals.

Ha-ha 1 Am here to!

Ok Ok, Sorry for being Impatient..:(

On Topic, Yes ten official factions are confimred ad being playable from the start. But It deff did say, once a revalution takes place, u can choose to play as the rebels. My theory is that if a rebellion breaks out in Ireland, it will be a rebellion, to change the official Government, of Great Britian, And not just to free Ireland. But for Reform for the entire Country!

Either that...or else What I stated before, about New factions coming. Even though the faction would probably not be named Ireland...Would probably be names Britush rebels, or something. Still its a Cool idea, just to be able to play as rebel states,

**Warmaster Horus** · 08-23-2008, 01:14

Well, the point of a rebellion against the state is generally to establish (or re-establish) the state. If the rebels are called British rebels, then they'll be trying to change Britain's government, and not establish a country of their own.

That said, if a peace settlement could be achieved, after hacking of the save game (if it's possible and if it's easy enough for the average player to do it), you could change the name of that rebel faction (maybe change a couple of other things like strategic map colour and the banner of the faction), you could have your very own emerging faction under your control!

But I'm getting ahead of myself here. We'll just have to wait and see (and hope a dev posts here!)

**darrin42** · 08-23-2008, 01:51

Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus

Well, the point of a rebellion against the state is generally to establish (or re-establish) the state. If the rebels are called British rebels, then they'll be trying to change Britain's government, and not establish a country of their own.

That said, if a peace settlement could be achieved, after hacking of the save game (if it's possible and if it's easy enough for the average player to do it), you could change the name of that rebel faction (maybe change a couple of other things like strategic map colour and the banner of the faction), you could have your very own emerging faction under your control!

But I'm getting ahead of myself here. We'll just have to wait and see (and hope a dev posts here!)

I Suppose so. I was just thinking to myself, if Ireland was to rebel, Then Why Would England, or Scotland, neccisarily rebel with it? If they were being treatd well I mean. Therefore, Would the rebellion, not just be Confised to Ireland? Ah it is so confusing lool!!! The idea tho, of being able to take control of rebels, and establish your own faction is so cool! Even if the name was not official like..you wouldent HAVE to attack Britian..you could choose to do what you wanted to, as long as you had control of them...But your right, we'l just have to wait and see!

**Khazar_Dahvos** · 08-23-2008, 05:22

what will prob happen is that regardless of whatever side you pick the opposite will just be rebels and you will still be the faction. For instance if you pick the side that wants gov change then the old regime will just be rebels kinda like in MTW 1 but different since you can choose which side to take!!!

**Martok** · 08-23-2008, 08:09

Originally Posted by Khazar_Dahvos

what will prob happen is that regardless of whatever side you pick the opposite will just be rebels and you will still be the faction. For instance if you pick the side that wants gov change then the old regime will just be rebels kinda like in MTW 1 but different since you can choose which side to take!!!

It's my hunch as well that this will be the case (or at least something similar). Of course, I certainly wouldn't mind something more complex.

**Khazar_Dahvos** · 08-23-2008, 09:27

indeed there will probably be alot more activity from the rebels and such like building more troops (it wont be quite as stagnant as it was in mtw when I had to go out and attack my rebel generals cuz they were not as strong as me. CA will sure to have some tricks up there sleeves with this. Did you guys notice that Europe does not have any rebel territories at all hmmmmmm..... coincidence maybe!!!!. It will probably make the the rebellions alot stronger!!!

Dont forget the AI now supposedly has objectives!!!!!

**Rhyfelwyr** · 08-23-2008, 11:25

Well we know for certain that some factions will appear from rebellions against others, we've already been told Scotland the the USA will do this.

However, I really doubt they will be playable. Well the USA will be playable because they said there is a campaign for its War of Independance, but you probably won't get to go factions appearing in mid-campaign, as cool as if would be.

You can choose which side to take in a civil war though, which IMO is going to be fantastic. Cromwell's Republic will be restored in England!