Rebellions, and New Factions being Introduced

**Khazar_Dahvos** · 08-23-2008, 09:27

indeed there will probably be alot more activity from the rebels and such like building more troops (it wont be quite as stagnant as it was in mtw when I had to go out and attack my rebel generals cuz they were not as strong as me. CA will sure to have some tricks up there sleeves with this. Did you guys notice that Europe does not have any rebel territories at all hmmmmmm..... coincidence maybe!!!!. It will probably make the the rebellions alot stronger!!!

Dont forget the AI now supposedly has objectives!!!!!

**Rhyfelwyr** · 08-23-2008, 11:25

Well we know for certain that some factions will appear from rebellions against others, we've already been told Scotland the the USA will do this.

However, I really doubt they will be playable. Well the USA will be playable because they said there is a campaign for its War of Independance, but you probably won't get to go factions appearing in mid-campaign, as cool as if would be.

You can choose which side to take in a civil war though, which IMO is going to be fantastic. Cromwell's Republic will be restored in England!

**PBI** · 08-23-2008, 12:10

I suspect there will be two types of rebellion; a national rebellion caused by strong Republican or Monarchist sentiment, which will work pretty much like civil wars in MTW; troops will mutiny and/or rebels appear based upon how much revolutionary sentiment there is in each province. You will then have the option to support the rebels or the government, with both sides being essentially the same in terms of units.

The other type I suspect will be regional rebellions like the United Irishmen or the Jacobites, which will be caused by sheer unpopularity of the foreign ruling power. In these I suspect you will not have the option to control the rebels but these rebellions will be more unique and dependent on the region they occur in. Possibly these could even be emergent factions, since from the campaign map shots it's clear CA have no problem with including loads and loads of factions this time.

Well, that's my guess at how it'll work, there's any number of ways they could do it though. It'll be interesting to see how it's done, there will certainly have to be a new system from M2TW to incorporate the new features. Hopefully it'll allow for modding in all sorts of interesting emergent factions/unique rebels.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 08-23-2008, 13:12

Scotland is confirmed as an emergent faction, although it won't necessarily emerge every game.

I look forward to gunning down some Jacobites! Rule Britannia!

**darrin42** · 08-23-2008, 13:35

Originally Posted by Poor Bloody Infantry

I suspect there will be two types of rebellion; a national rebellion caused by strong Republican or Monarchist sentiment, which will work pretty much like civil wars in MTW; troops will mutiny and/or rebels appear based upon how much revolutionary sentiment there is in each province. You will then have the option to support the rebels or the government, with both sides being essentially the same in terms of units.

The other type I suspect will be regional rebellions like the United Irishmen or the Jacobites, which will be caused by sheer unpopularity of the foreign ruling power. In these I suspect you will not have the option to control the rebels but these rebellions will be more unique and dependent on the region they occur in. Possibly these could even be emergent factions, since from the campaign map shots it's clear CA have no problem with including loads and loads of factions this time.

Well, that's my guess at how it'll work, there's any number of ways they could do it though. It'll be interesting to see how it's done, there will certainly have to be a new system from M2TW to incorporate the new features. Hopefully it'll allow for modding in all sorts of interesting emergent factions/unique rebels.

Darn it! If that is the case, I NEED to play as the united Irish men! 1798 Shall rise again!

**Mailman653** · 08-23-2008, 14:32

Forget republic, long live King Washington

**Jolt** · 08-29-2008, 19:35

Originally Posted by Mailman653

Forget republic, long live King Washington

*King George I :P

**adembroski** · 09-02-2008, 12:51

Irish Rebels = fun filled and exciting. I hope they do something like that. If the US can rebel, there's no reason the Irish can't.

That's one of my issues with TW... only that which happened can happen in terms of those sorts of events. Maybe the colonies stay happy and the Irish revolt instead... The United States of the Hybernia is born.

**Martok** · 08-23-2008, 20:56

Originally Posted by Caledonian Rhyfelwyr

However, I really doubt they will be playable. Well the USA will be playable because they said there is a campaign for its War of Independance, but you probably won't get to go factions appearing in mid-campaign, as cool as if would be.

Actually, CA has stated on more than one occasion that the U.S. will be playable in the main campaign as well (albeit as an emergent faction, of course). I believe how it will work is that *if* the Colonies rebel (which isn't guaranteed to happen -- it's supposedly situational-dependent, much like the possibility of a Jacobite uprising), you'll have the choice to either continue playing as the British or switch over to playing as the Americans.

At least, that's my impression of how it will work. CA has been a little vague on the subject (of playing as the USA in the main campaign), so I may have the details completely wrong.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 08-23-2008, 23:18

Wow, that would be a great feature changing factions mid-campaign.

**darrin42** · 08-24-2008, 01:11

Originally Posted by Caledonian Rhyfelwyr

Wow, that would be a great feature changing factions mid-campaign.

Indeed it Would, my Friend! And I Believe this is to be the case, I hears it stated by CA many, Many times before(Mostly In a direct reference to the US) Though, Im sure it will apply to a few other factions...God this game is going to be cool lol!

**Hax** · 08-26-2008, 01:17

Jacobiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee uprising!

Let us slay our enemies while wearing kilts and playing bagpipes!

**Sheogorath** · 08-26-2008, 02:11

From what I've heard (and some guessing) MOST revolutionary 'factions' will probably be like the 'Roman Rebel' factions in BI. Some will be different factions, but they'll be event related (or faction specific), which means that even if England takes over all of India and then lets it revolt, it'll just be the Super British Kingdom of India (with British people), not some crazy British-Indian fusion...thing.
But thats just a guess, of course. CA may've been able to pull something like that off :P