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    Default AW: Re: HEROIC VICTORY CTD - WTF?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by bovi View Post
    * Spaces in folders. Just don't do it.
    * It's in Program Files. Why...
    Why no spaces in folder names? Btw it wasn't me who named that "Rome - Total War" folder, it was the RTW installer naturally.

    Why shouldn't it be in Program Files? Every program is installed there and I didn't want to change this.

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    Hmm... Then perhaps it won't work with an ongoing campaign. Could you try to start a new one and see if that crashes as well? I've done the same procedure with the internal version and there it works fine, but I only tried to start a new campaign...

    As for how you should know about the hyphens, I would presume you've come across this problem earlier with shortcuts using your space-infested folder names, or used any command line (DOS, Unix or whatever). Apparently not though.

    Spaces, like non-US-ASCII characters, in folder names is asking for problems. At least the German version of Windows doesn't have spaces by default. Although perhaps it is just me having experience from the old days, where it led to all kinds of problems when I tried to use Norwegian characters.

    The placement of games on the disk is I guess a matter of personal preference, but I prefer to not have them cluttering up the normal applications. Also having EB in Program Files is discouraged (by the installer, no less). Yes, it's Vista that has problems with it and you're probably doing alright if you have XP.

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    Default AW: Re: HEROIC VICTORY CTD - WTF?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by bovi View Post
    Hmm... Then perhaps it won't work with an ongoing campaign. Could you try to start a new one and see if that crashes as well? I've done the same procedure with the internal version and there it works fine, but I only tried to start a new campaign...

    As for how you should know about the hyphens, I would presume you've come across this problem earlier with shortcuts using your space-infested folder names, or used any command line (DOS, Unix or whatever). Apparently not though.

    Spaces, like non-US-ASCII characters, in folder names is asking for problems. At least the German version of Windows doesn't have spaces by default. Although perhaps it is just me having experience from the old days, where it led to all kinds of problems when I tried to use Norwegian characters.

    The placement of games on the disk is I guess a matter of personal preference, but I prefer to not have them cluttering up the normal applications. Also having EB in Program Files is discouraged (by the installer, no less). Yes, it's Vista that has problems with it and you're probably doing alright if you have XP.
    Done the same. Tried to start Baktria and Saka campaign, didn't work, got kicked back to the Single Player menu. Upon quitting the game I got this screen:



    Then I copied the new map.rwm into sp game backup and started in normal Single Player mode. Tried to start Saka and Saba campaign and got kicked again. Quitted the game without failure screen.

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    That's one funky error 'cause:
    Code:
    1764 |  level city
    1765 |  region Latium2
    In:
    Code:
    settlement
    {
    	level city
    	region Latium2
    
    	year_founded 0
    	population 8770
    	settlement_tax 51
    	plan_set default_set
    	faction_creator seleucid
    	building
    	{
    		type core_building governors_palace
    	}
    	building
    	{
    		type uniques1 oneone
    	}
    	building
    	{
    		type defenses stone_wall
    	}
    	building
    	{
    		type amphitheatres game_field
    	}
    	building
    	{
    		type equestrian stables
    	}
    	building
    	{
    		type healing doctor
    	}
    ;WG	building
    ;	{
    ;		type Barracks_A city_barracks_A1
    ;	}
    	building
    	{
    		type smith blacksmith
    	}
    ;WG	building
    ;	{
    ;		type hinterland_roads roads
    ;	}
    	building
    	{
    		type port_buildings shipwright
    	}
    	building
    	{
    		type farms2 grain_silo
    	}
    	building
    	{
    		type market market
    	}
    	building
    	{
    		type hinterland_farms farms+2
    	}
    	building
    	{
    		type temple_of_governors temple_of_governors_large_temple
    	}
    }
    Which would indicate a wrong location of the single black pixel in the Latium (as seen in the game) province... Ooh now our Scripters are gonna be really, really unhappy.
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    Default Re: HEROIC VICTORY CTD - WTF?!?!

    obviously someone has been messing with descr_strat without telling us. I would recommend getting hold of a clean 1.1 descr_strat

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    Default AW: Re: HEROIC VICTORY CTD - WTF?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
    That's one funky error 'cause:

    Which would indicate a wrong location of the single black pixel in the Latium (as seen in the game) province... Ooh now our Scripters are gonna be really, really unhappy.
    Mmmh, so further knowlegde I can provide is only

    - I use corrected_regions.tga. After copying this into the maps/base folder and deleting map.rwm, I started the game via "configuration", and then "play EB". Dunno if this can make a difference. It worked all fine with my savegame. It did however not erase the ctd I got upon clicking "Occupy" when conquering Ariminum in the AI's turn. The map.rwm generated however proved to have a creation date of june, so I figured out that it didn't really worked.

    - I installed the four permanent fixes years into my campaign, not before starting my campaign.

    My campaign is working though with the normally generated map.rwm and the corrected_regions.tga.

    Quote Originally Posted by bovi
    As for how you should know about the hyphens, I would presume you've come across this problem earlier with shortcuts using your space-infested folder names, or used any command line (DOS, Unix or whatever). Apparently not though.
    No, never, I always create my shortcuts with the pure browse funtion. I never cared about the hyphens and thought them completely irrelevant even.

    Quote Originally Posted by bovi
    Spaces, like non-US-ASCII characters, in folder names is asking for problems. At least the German version of Windows doesn't have spaces by default. Although perhaps it is just me having experience from the old days, where it led to all kinds of problems when I tried to use Norwegian characters.
    Well I use spaces, ä, ö, ü, ß, ñ and accents for almost every folder, and never had any problems. I can use Greek letters even.

    Quote Originally Posted by foot
    obviously someone has been messing with descr_strat without telling us. I would recommend getting hold of a clean 1.1 descr_strat
    I will try it if someones gives it to me.
    Last edited by Centurio Nixalsverdrus; 08-22-2008 at 21:30.

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    Default Re: HEROIC VICTORY CTD - WTF?!?!

    Assuming you have the shortcut bypassing the Trivial Script set up properly; you should try:
    (1) run EB;
    (2) when you get to the main menu, ALT + TAB to your desktop;
    (3) locate the 'fixed' folder in your EB build
    (4) delete map.rwm
    (5) load up a new campaign or the old one
    (6) copy the newly generated map.rwm file from the 'fixed' folder to your sp game edu backup folder.
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    Default Re: HEROIC VICTORY CTD - WTF?!?!

    And get a new descr_strat. Cos that is stopping you from starting a new campaign.

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    Default AW: HEROIC VICTORY CTD - WTF?!?!

    Sorry, but I searched my HDD and it didn't find a folder called "fixed". If it has any other name than that you have to tell me explicitly otherwise there is no chance I get what you mean.

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    Default Re: AW: Re: HEROIC VICTORY CTD - WTF?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus View Post
    Mmmh, so further knowlegde I can provide is only

    - I use corrected_regions.tga. After copying this into the maps/base folder and deleting map.rwm, I started the game via "configuration", and then "play EB". Dunno if this can make a difference. It worked all fine with my savegame. It did however not erase the ctd I got upon clicking "Occupy" when conquering Ariminum in the AI's turn. The map.rwm generated however proved to have a creation date of june, so I figured out that it didn't really worked.
    You did rename it to map_regions.tga after copying it there, right? I presume you did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus View Post
    My campaign is working though with the normally generated map.rwm and the corrected_regions.tga.
    That's probably because it isn't using the corrected_regions.tga, it's only used when map.rwm isn't present. Perhaps you should try to delete corrected_regions.tga and then run the game with the old map_regions.tga. Then a new corrected_regions.tga should be generated and you can copy that one over. You may have an old corrected_regions from whatever version.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus View Post
    I will try it if someones gives it to me.
    You have it, it's in the EB installer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus
    Sorry, but I searched my HDD and it didn't find a folder called "fixed".
    I don't get what Tellos means here either .
    Last edited by bovi; 08-23-2008 at 09:10.

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    Default Re: Problem getting corrected_regions.tga to work

    The folder where your fixed files reside, I mean. Which is IIRC:
    ../EB/data/world/maps/base/
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