What faction did you play first?

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Of course it is. But that's easy saying 'cause it doesn't concern you (or me for that matter). You have got to agree that film wasn't exactly a beacon of light of political (or historical for that matter) correct views; for avoiding more hot headed terminology at this point. In any case you can see where I'm coming from; that such films might've simply 'rubbed' some people 'the wrong way' as well?

Quite so. As I have mentioned before, one of my roommates was a Persian immigrant. We went to see 300 together in fact. Being naturally a light-hearted fellow, he laughed the stupidity off, but I could certainly see that it irked him personally and shared that feeling myself.

Social-reengineering is a pretty serious accusation/claim and wether true or not the word itself (incidentally I take it you were fully aware of that?) alludes to illegit practices. Indeed social-engineering will get you a ticket to court in most countries. Coupled to the use of "swathe" & "propaganda" it is easy to see why people may find that confrontational? At any rate it isn't very well phrased.

It was never my intention to debate this issue in this thread, in fact my post was entirely relevant to the subject at hand even if my phrasing was perhaps too harsh in the context. I would love to share with you the innumerable attempts people have made to socially-re engineer myself and and others, but this is not the place.

So really what's there so different in a movie as 300 to some 'Anti-American' movie currently 'bombing the box office' to people sensitive to bias, propaganda or statements expressed in either? I for one think there is little difference in and of itself; however it's different people that get riled up over it.

Big difference--300 made big money and cost relatively little to create. These other films I alluded to were expensive and brought in very low revenues, yet Hollywood fat cats continue to fund their production. A fascinating situation, is it not?

For future conversation, there is an excellent thread in the Frontroom in which we can discuss movies. I refused to name names on this thread because it was irrelevant to the point I was making and I feared it would engender hard feelings by someone who had enjoyed the films. Unfortunantly, that appeas to have already been done.

I cannot believe I'm saying this, but:

guys, this is the EB forum. this place is to debate history, and the mod known to the world as "Europa barbarorum". politics (especially infalammatory or cruel behavior), is supposed to be banned here. If anyone has issues with "anti-america" or "pro-Islam" or anti-bateekh, there is a place called the backroom. alternately, there is a place called the political mudpit @ the TWcenter.


yeah i learned my lesson from the rules crackdown....

Amen.