Duelling

[yesdachi]

It would be murder because you started by actively seeking to kill them.

But they actively sought to kill me.

[CountArach]

But they actively sought to kill me.

Well by that argument they were acting in self-defence, so you were in fact committing murder.

[yesdachi]

Well by that argument they were acting in self-defence, so you were in fact committing murder.

If they would have won they would have been acting in self defense. I get the feeling we could keep going around on this argument.

[CountArach]

If they would have won they would have been acting in self defense. I get the feeling we could keep going around on this argument.

Well yeah, but I don't accept it is self-defence . If you sign up to this, you are aware of the risks and your state aim is the death of the other person for whatever reason. Hence, it is murder.

[PBI]

I wondered about the self defense thing, but at least according to wiki there is a so-called Duty to Retreat, whereby you can only plead self-defense if violence was the only option and you had made every attempt to avoid the conflict. Since in this case you are actively seeking out a conflict it's not self defense, it's murder, the same as if you had started a fight which got out of hand and resulted in you killing the other person.