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    Do AP weapons only halve the armour value of the target, or do they affect the shield value as well?
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    Default Re: AP weaponry

    It only halves the armour; the shield value remains unaffected.

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    Default Re: AP weaponry

    Quote Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking View Post
    It only halves the armour; the shield value remains unaffected.
    WHAAAT!?! I have always thought that the AP weaponry halves the total armour of the opposing unit, that is its defence skill+armour+shield. Are you sure that AP weapons only cut the armor value with shield and skill remaining? Because if it is as you say, I have recruited 25 one experience and one weapons/armour units of Pedites Extraordinarii in the past 2 years all in vain, thinking that the numerous AS Thorakitai Agematos Basilikou can be easily countered by the AP bonus of Pedites Extraordinarii!

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    Default Re: AP weaponry

    AP only takes armour. I'm hard-pressed to understand how it would effect defense skill. As for shield, thats a deflection bonus so AP doesn't effect it. I'm just making the terminology up now.

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    Default Re: AP weaponry

    Quote Originally Posted by Foot View Post
    AP only takes armour. I'm hard-pressed to understand how it would effect defense skill. As for shield, thats a deflection bonus so AP doesn't effect it. I'm just making the terminology up now.

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    well, defense skill isn't taken into account against missiles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poulp' View Post
    well, defense skill isn't taken into account against missiles.
    Try blocking a volley of arrow with a spear or a sword. That ain't easy. A shield however makes it quite a bit more easy. And well armour always helps.
    Also an amour piercing attribute having an effect on your enenmies defence skill wlould be a wierd thing.
    AP only halves the armour points. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    WHAAAT!?! I have always thought that the AP weaponry halves the total armour of the opposing unit, that is its defence skill+armour+shield. Are you sure that AP weapons only cut the armor value with shield and skill remaining?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Because if it is as you say, I have recruited 25 one experience and one weapons/armour units of Pedites Extraordinarii in the past 2 years all in vain, thinking that the numerous AS Thorakitai Agematos Basilikou can be easily countered by the AP bonus of Pedites Extraordinarii!
    Your Pedites Extraordinarii will do fine against them, but Thorakitai Agematos Basilikou are the best dam*recruitable* infantry unit in game*stat wise* for a good reason. Don't expect any unit to fight them head on and come out unscratched.
    I shouldn't have to live in a world where all the good points are horrible ones.

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    Default Re: AP weaponry

    Armour always works, but is halved by AP weapons.
    Defence skill only works against melee weapons, and not when being attacked from behind.
    Shield works only to the front and the left side.

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    Wow. That sure was a swift response. Do you just prowl around the EB forums and stalk new posts? Just kidding , I do it too. Thanks anyway!

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    Don't expect any unit to fight them head on and come out unscratched.
    **cough**


    OK not exactly unscratched but they have a good liklihood of winning one on one.
    maybe those guys should be doing something more useful...

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    id ban the bastard for cheating

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