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    Default Re: New build Problems

    I'm not as familiar with Vista, but I believe you can just type 'event viewer' in the start/search box thing to get to it. The system log will mostly be where you want to look, but give the others a check too. In particular, note any errors that are logged around the time of a crash.
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    Default Re: New build Problems

    okay, I'll get the crash again, and see if there's anything there.

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    Okay, I've crashed again, and lokoed at the 'Errors' event log, and here's what I got:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Log Name: System
    Source: Microsoft-Windows-HttpEvent
    Date: 02/09/2008 11:24:43
    Event ID: 15016
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    Unable to initialize the security package Kerberos for server side authentication. The data field contains the error number.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-HttpEvent" Guid="{7b6bc78c-898b-4170-bbf8-1a469ea43fc5}" EventSourceName="HTTP" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">15016</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-02T10:24:43.707Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10515</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="64" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data Name="DeviceObject">\Device\Http\ReqQueue</Data>
    <Data Name="SecurityPackage">Kerberos</Data>
    <Binary>000004000200300000000000A83A00C00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000E030980</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 02/09/2008 11:24:32
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-02T10:24:32.942Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10509</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: EventLog
    Date: 02/09/2008 11:24:41
    Event ID: 6008
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    The previous system shutdown at 11:22:49 on 02/09/2008 was unexpected.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="EventLog" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="32768">6008</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-02T10:24:41.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10496</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>11:22:49</Data>
    <Data>02/09/2008</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>9494</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Binary>D8070900020002000B00160031009E03D8070900020002000A00160031009E03600900003C000000010000006009 000000000000B00400000100000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Microsoft-Windows-HttpEvent
    Date: 02/09/2008 08:45:01
    Event ID: 15016
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    Unable to initialize the security package Kerberos for server side authentication. The data field contains the error number.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-HttpEvent" Guid="{7b6bc78c-898b-4170-bbf8-1a469ea43fc5}" EventSourceName="HTTP" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">15016</EventID>
    <Version>0</Version>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Opcode>0</Opcode>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-02T07:45:01.033Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10396</EventRecordID>
    <Correlation />
    <Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="72" />
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data Name="DeviceObject">\Device\Http\ReqQueue</Data>
    <Data Name="SecurityPackage">Kerberos</Data>
    <Binary>000004000200300000000000A83A00C00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000E030980</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 02/09/2008 08:44:48
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-02T07:44:48.245Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10392</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>


    I've rechecked, and noticed these at almost all the approximate times of crashing.
    Any Help?
    Last edited by Che Roriniho; 09-02-2008 at 11:30.

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    Default Re: New build Problems

    My guess is you have a driver and that is not Vista 64bit compatible. Apparently PQNTDrv.SYS is a driver used by PowerQuest but could also be a virus disguised as that so my next guess would be you have a PowerQuest program that is not Vista 64bit compatible.

    This Kerberos thing seems to be a bug introduced with SP1 for some people, don't think I ever had it but found a forum where some had it (including freezes) and they say Microsoft advises to ignore it. Since the log entry seems to be on Every Vista SP1 computer(including this notebook here that doesn't freeze) I guess it has nothing to do with the freezes.

    I think it could be a purely hardware related problem since an incompatible driver should not cause random crashes either way, unless you caught yourself some virus there...
    Last edited by Husar; 09-02-2008 at 12:43.


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    I'm scanning for viruses, but I doubt that's the cause, as I've been having them since pre-internet on my computer.

    Also found a load more 1060 errors, not all of them the same as that previous one, whats more, they seem to match approximately up to my crashes:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 24/08/2008 20:34:11
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \??\D:\INSTALL\GMSIPCI.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-08-24T19:34:11.296Z" />
    <EventRecordID>4789</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\??\D:\INSTALL\GMSIPCI.SYS</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 24/08/2008 20:34:13
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \??\D:\NTGLM7X.sys has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-08-24T19:34:13.137Z" />
    <EventRecordID>4793</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\??\D:\NTGLM7X.sys</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 01/09/2008 12:20:31
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-01T11:20:31.472Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10170</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 01/09/2008 12:08:30
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-01T11:08:30.530Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10060</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 31/08/2008 16:47:13
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-08-31T15:47:13.316Z" />
    <EventRecordID>9714</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 01/09/2008 10:13:50
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-01T09:13:50.039Z" />
    <EventRecordID>9940</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 24/08/2008 19:59:46
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \??\D:\INSTALL\GMSIPCI.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-08-24T18:59:46.619Z" />
    <EventRecordID>331</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\??\D:\INSTALL\GMSIPCI.SYS</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 02/09/2008 08:44:48
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-02T07:44:48.245Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10392</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 02/09/2008 11:24:32
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-02T10:24:32.942Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10509</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\PQNTDrv.SYS</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>

    Log Name: System
    Source: Application Popup
    Date: 24/08/2008 19:59:48
    Event ID: 1060
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    \??\D:\NTGLM7X.sys has been blocked from loading due to incompatibility with this system. Please contact your software vendor for a compatible version of the driver.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="Application Popup" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="49152">1060</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-08-24T18:59:48.413Z" />
    <EventRecordID>334</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>\??\D:\NTGLM7X.sys</Data>
    <Binary>000000000200300000000000240400C0000000006B0300C000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>


    The last few times I've had the crashes, instead of it just hanging, it rebots, and then tells be that there was a bluescreen. I know in WinXP Bluescreens dissappeared the second the appeared, is this the same in Vista.

    I've also noticed that 3 things happen before a crash (according to the event viewer):
    1st, there is an application pop-up. (1060 error)
    Then, about 10 seconds later, there is an EventLog error (6008), this says that about 2 minutes ago (from the message) there was a unexpected shutdown. Example:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Log Name: System
    Source: EventLog
    Date: 02/09/2008 11:24:41
    Event ID: 6008
    Task Category: None
    Level: Error
    Keywords: Classic
    User: N/A
    Computer: Xena
    Description:
    The previous system shutdown at 11:22:49 on 02/09/2008 was unexpected.
    Event Xml:
    <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
    <System>
    <Provider Name="EventLog" />
    <EventID Qualifiers="32768">6008</EventID>
    <Level>2</Level>
    <Task>0</Task>
    <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
    <TimeCreated SystemTime="2008-09-02T10:24:41.000Z" />
    <EventRecordID>10496</EventRecordID>
    <Channel>System</Channel>
    <Computer>Xena</Computer>
    <Security />
    </System>
    <EventData>
    <Data>11:22:49</Data>
    <Data>02/09/2008</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>9494</Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Data>
    </Data>
    <Binary>D8070900020002000B00160031009E03D8070900020002000A00160031009E03600900003C000000010000006009 000000000000B00400000100000000000000</Binary>
    </EventData>
    </Event>


    Finnally, there is an HttpEvent (15016). This tells me that Kerberosis anable to initialize for server-side authentication. This doesn't seem to only happen when there is a crash, but it is always in this 3 error part.

  6. #6

    Default Re: New build Problems

    Okay, it's happened again, and I've got an error message diolog adter it booted up.

    Here it is:
    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
    OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.768.3
    Locale ID: 2057

    Additional information about the problem:
    BCCode: 50
    BCP1: FFFFFA6007384000
    BCP2: 0000000000000001
    BCP3: FFFFFA600245305B
    BCP4: 0000000000000000
    OS Version: 6_0_6001
    Service Pack: 1_0
    Product: 768_1

    Files that help describe the problem:
    C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini090308-01.dmp
    C:\Windows\Temp\WER-31793-0.sysdata.xml
    C:\Windows\Temp\WERA9D5.tmp.version.txt

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    Hope that helps. If you want me to send you the files detailed, just ask, and I'll upload them asap.

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    Default Re: New build Problems

    Okay, I'm now begging for help.

    Another thing I've noticed is that, for example, today, I've had 3 crashes. Each one of them happene earlier than the last crash happened. This is something that, looking back, may be a trend. Guessing through this it could be one of 2 things:

    Either somethings overheating, which I doubt, as nothing is overclocked (except my GPU, but I've stresstested that to buggery, so that has no problems.), and all fans are working well. I also have an After-Market cooler, so I doubt it's the CPU. This might be possible, as it resets, as opposed to me turning off, allowing some cool time, then turning on again, so any heat gain would be cluminative.

    That, or Memory problems. wouldn't have a clue where to start here, at least in finding a specific fault. It isn't the latency, as I've set that correctly, as per the manufacturers instructions. Likewise the voltage and frequency (2.1v, and 800MHz respectively). The possiblity of one or both of my RAM sticks being a dud seems to be approaching, admittedly it's still in the distance. They'rew OCZ, so I'm not going to start thinking this until I have proof.

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