The Lunar Whale: A Final Fantasy IV Mafia [Concluded]

[Thermal]

Umm why should it have ended Quintus? Its only been 16 hours. Or is it because you sent in your kill orders?

lol

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wow. A LOT has happened since I went to work.

Dang!

I apparently upset a number of people with calling for a shlin lynch. I'll respond to everyone here as best I can:

Ah but you see, its the points 6 and 7 on your list that's worrying me. Why shlin over WH, especially as WH seemed quite a bit scummier as I pointed out?

While there is some suspicion on you (because using the spotlight on yourself seems very unmafia-like, but was nevertheless employed previously), I am more concerned about the others that just jump on the wagon whenever you call it.

@Factionheir:

Well at least you understand my motivations a bit better now.

And you're right, people did more or less jump on the wagon, and I can see how it would be disconcerting. I wanted to coordinate town's strategy as best I could with the limited information I have, and an investigation on Aries coupled with a lynch does not help us. That's a wasted investigation

Why not WH? ... I don't know. In retrospect, it would have been a better choice. I just wanted to give WH a chance to defend himself. I thought Shlin was still online, I guess I wasn't paying attention. He had been contributing I wanted to see how he would react, like Aries did. And since night isn't over yet, we can't confirm that Aries is even innocent yet.

I wish I could do everything at once, but I can't.

Hmm... I'll ask you guys (especially FH) to remember that I've started my last year of High School 3 days ago. I'm going to be busy, and if I lurk, then it won't be my fault.
I've been much less active here than in Starship Exodus (5 posts here, 17 over there; I wouldn't say I lurked there), because there's too much discussion going on. I should have guessed that would happen with ATPG here, but 10 pages for barely 2 nights... TOO MUCH!

Anyhoo, everyone was voting me after 10H35 my time (GMT+2). Folks, I gotta be at the school (which is 20 minutes away from where I live) at 8 am. This means I should wake up 'round 6h45 and to have 8 hours of sleep, I should be in bed at around 10h30.
Guys, when I was being voted for, I was logging out. Checking my PMs, LotR and WotB busied me right before that. I didn't have time even to contest!

So, can someone tell me why I'm under suspicion, other than the fact I've been lurking?
And I've been going through the last couple of pages... I've got one thing to say:

@Warmaster Horus:

I thought something like this was the reason you weren't here. But now that you are back, I agree with FactionHeir's suspicion of you. You're on my most likely list.

Would you please reveal your ability to us? Thank you, sir!

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Re: The Lunar Whale: A Final Fantasy IV Mafia


Now I am really angry, first I am not allowed into the cool club, and now I get bandwagonned when NOBODY even tried to ask me anything? In the first game where I tried to actively help the town, I get lynched just because you 'think' I am guilty. If you, oh I don't know, ASKED me something, and then lynch me, I will be fine. But no, let's lynch him when there is no evidence. (I know its partly my mistake that I did not post that I will be offline, but still...)

In any case, you could have forced me and someone into a tie, thus giving me sometime to reply (if there is an extension period as usual). Just going off and lynching me shows that you want to kill me desperately, a desperate gamble because you found out my role perhaps?

and to ATPG:

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1. Aries claimed to have an ability which could have taken out at least one townie should we have lynched him. I wanted to find out if that was accurate or not.
I can agree with that...yet you didn't even ask me to reveal. (You didn't even reveal yourself, it seems you are just forcing everyone but you and your oh so special group to reveal)

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2. Aries ability, if town, would be a great asset for town. One more spike for the mafioso to impale himself on.
Same as above, and the mafia would not be dumb enough to attack Aries now that he has revealed.

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3. Aries responded and cooperated with the investigation to my satisfaction.
He has been, let's say, very uncooperative before that, and now you trust him (frankly, I think that the transformation from "NO, I'll never reveal my role." to "Oh alright then..." a bit too quick for my taste...). But me, who has been helping since the beginning, is offed...

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4. FactionHeir is usually fairly useful to town, and although you'd make the perfect mafioso, you'd be more valuable to us alive (for now). Especially if I were to die... FactionHeir could easily take over the investigation where I left off. I trust he'd be able to find the killer or at least root them out.
Wow, how would you know FactionHeir can carry out the investigation later? You cannot know his role at all, unless you yourself is a detective, which I doubt. Even worse, I don't think you can organise a town group without mentioning a single teeny tiny bit of what you can do, I mean, if you say you found someone innocent to anyone at all, thats breaking the rules. So is if you tell them you protect him etc etc...

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5. El Diablo was not here to suffer under the intense scrutiny of the investigation, so pressuring him wouldn't reveal anything. But he's still a top suspect.
I wasn't here either.

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6. Warmaster Horus wasn't here either. But, he's next on the list in my book.
I wasn't here either.

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7. I haven't found Shlin particularly useful to town's investigation. We could afford to lose him.
I havn't been useful? I have been posting and trying to find the mafia from the beginning...

If you had bothered to question me at all, I would have happily revealed... but now I can't, so I'll just say you made a big mistake. A BIG MISTAKE (Emphasis on the BIG).

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I hope this helps you understand my motivations. One more night and I'll be ready to present my case to town. Deal with me however you like then. Town cannot die today or tomorrow, you have plenty of time left due to the fact that there appears to be no vigilante, or at least the vigilante might have died, or they are saving the vigilante kill until it's a safe shot.
Frankly, WH and the others are far more suspicous and lynchable, did they help the town like I did? Nope, nada.

and finally... WHY is Aries kept alive? His role is worthless now that he has revealed, as no sane mafia would attack him... so you point about how he is oh so important is not so important after all; amd I would doubt that the host would put in the ability to kill the person who voted him, as that just seems so... serial killer-like, such as the role in Taorimina (or something like that...) who kills everyone who voted for someone.

Phew, rant over . I'm just angry that I didn't get to reveal, get into the townie group and see the town win.

Yes, I don't think the town is going to win, the town is led by a crazy lunatic () who everyone else follows blindly (make your own points! Don't just follow someone...), and that is not the direction this game should go in

and here is my super duper conspiracy theory:

ATPG has publicly announced that there is a townie grand plan in the works. If he really is town, he would try to keep it hidden, and thus, when the mafia least expects it, he springs it on them.

But no, he announced publicly, knowing full well that the mafia would be expecting this super duper plan of his, and thus possibly leading to the potential failure of da plan.

Thus, I propose to you, the honest travellers of this strange ship, that ATPG is pretending to be town and is thus the bravest mafia player I have met and the only one who had pulled off this gamble.

I believe that ATPG is scum Please make your mind up yourself, and let me watch this amazing show.

(Yes I know my ideas are a bit 'far-out', but I'm just suggesting it to you guys...)

@ Shlin:

Big apologies, buddy, if you are indeed innocent. I think Chaotix himself confirmed that you are.

Bottom line is, I wanted to try to get you to react to a sudden death bandwagon, and you weren't there, then the bandwagon succeeded, and you turned out to be innocent.

I am sorry. There is something good in this, we have fewer suspects left, and that narrows down my options as to who is guilty or not.

And before you guys get all antsy in the pantsy, I understand full well that mafia would be similarly excited that there are fewer townies left. So before you all cry "Eureka", I urge you to calm yourselves down, and give me the one extra day that I asked for before you lynch me. I'm closer to cracking this thing than ever before.

If you listen to me, town loses nothing no matter which affiliation I am. I swear I am townie, and important to town. Which means keeping me around is good.

If I were mafia, I volunteered to be lynched before it's too late for town, so how exactly would that be a good move for me? I must be the dumbest scumbag ever if that is the case. I'm asking you to reason it out with me.

If you want, I'll even commit suicide so you don't have to waste a lynch. All I have to do is stop posting, and voting, and Chaotix will take care of me, and you'll never have to hear from me again.

Allow me to repeat, in case you're not getting the gist of what I am saying:

I AM NOT MAFIA, AND I'LL VOLUNTEER TO DIE TO PROVE IT. JUST GIVE ME ONE MORE DAY IS ALL I ASK.

Did that get through to any of you?