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    Makedonios Ksanthopoulos Member Privateerkev's Avatar
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    Default Re: Rule Interpretation and Dispute Resolution

    I have a question on a totally different subject.

    When I hit end turn for 1128, EF was attacked by the Turks. It was 13 bodyguards versus 600 Turks. Lots of them HA's. Instead of putting the save up, I simply hit the white flag. He pulled back and was safe. The AI's turn progressed and we went into 1129.

    Now, I admit this could be seen as a loophole. But if there are no rules for it, the Megas can do it. And if it is a loophole, I would argue I did it to help an avatar, instead of hurting him.

    But I am uncomfortable with the precedent. There are many cases I can see where someone would not want the Megas retreating them during defensive battles. But in KotR, we did this all the time. Also, it saves time if the Megas can just retreat avatars that he knows would retreat anyways. We could have been waiting all day and night waiting for EF to simply hit a white flag icon.

    So, my question is this: Under what circumstances, if any, can the Megas retreat an avatar who is attacked on the AI's turn.


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    Default Re: Rule Interpretation and Dispute Resolution

    Quote Originally Posted by Privateerkev View Post
    I have a question on a totally different subject.
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    I would have fought that battle, I could have killed a few Turks, got some experience and then ran off. What you did has a good chance of giving my avatar negative traits for fleeing a battle, you did not have my permission to do that so add another rule violation to PK

    Even if you would have been waiting a while does it really matter? We aren't in a rush with this game you know, breaking the rules and risking negative traits for my avatar just because you want to play faster isn't fair.

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    Default Re: Rule Interpretation and Dispute Resolution

    Apparently no one is reading the initial warning I posted at the top. I have therefore increased it in font size and I will post it here as well to make sure it's understood:

    Please do not post in this thread yet.

    If you have a problem or a complaint, send me a PM about it.


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    Default Re: Rule Interpretation and Dispute Resolution

    The Situation:

    During the AI turn, Elite Ferret's avatar was alone in the field and was attacked by a large Turkish army. PK retreated the avatar to safety.

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    Analysis:

    Not a whole to analyze, this is a basic rule violation. The choice of whether to fight or retreat was EF's. We've been using this kind of rule since WotS, so this shouldn't be a tough one to obey.

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    Conclusion:

    PK clearly violated a rule. The violation was done to help EF, not to hurt him, as the odds of victory in such a situation were absurdly low. Even so, the choice should have been EF's and retreating potentially added points towards a cowardice trait for EF, though no trait changes actually occurred yet. So, it's a violation of major rule, but the actual impact on the game is very minor and it was done with good intentions.

    One point of influence is hereby transferred from PK to EF for the next Senate vote only.


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