Who should succeed Perseus, Basileus of Makedonia?

**konny** · 08-30-2008, 12:26

Right now it would be Euphamios because the army would more likely follow him than his brother. The King doesn't really like either of them:

- Euphamios because of his lazyness and pessimism what would make a ruler that will most likely hide in his pallace instead of going out and conquer the known world.

- Antiochos because he is an effeminate and morose turncoat who might be more successfull in court politics but is not the kind of people the king likes around him.

The King prefers people who are tough, straight ahead, optimistic and know what they want, and don't have any problems using brute force to achieve their goals.

**Hax** · 08-30-2008, 12:56

Still, Euphamios is a philhellene. This will certainly be looked upon the court with some caution.

**Maion Maroneios** · 08-30-2008, 13:52

Well, he wouldn't. Being philhellen doesn't necessarily mean he would adopt southern-hellenic customs, which were never far from Makedonian ones. Hellenes (in general) might not have had any real sense of unity at that time, but they sure had too many things in common to reject there would have been frendly feelings between any hellenic people.

Anyway, I would go for Euphamios. Older, wiser and Loyal, as opposed to Antiochos. Then again, Antiochos has other plus points, like having completed the Agoge, as well as a very bright future ahaid of him. They both are Langorous, which isn't very good, but that doesn't say much.

Good luck with your Arche's future, I hope you will spread the dream of Hellenism to the furthest corners again

Maion

**Centurio Nixalsverdrus** · 08-30-2008, 21:08

Ah, I said Polyperchon was an idiot, but well, he's quite OK indeed...

Originally Posted by konny

Right now it would be Euphamios because the army would more likely follow him than his brother. The King doesn't really like either of them:

- Euphamios because of his lazyness and pessimism what would make a ruler that will most likely hide in his pallace instead of going out and conquer the known world.

- Antiochos because he is an effeminate and morose turncoat who might be more successfull in court politics but is not the kind of people the king likes around him.

The King prefers people who are tough, straight ahead, optimistic and know what they want, and don't have any problems using brute force to achieve their goals.

Antiochos is vigorous and bloody. So he has quite a big chance to become a slaughterer like his dad.

Yeah, the army would likely follow Euphamios though he is philhellene and wildly extravagant. He hasn't seen his father and his court for over 20 years though. He conquered Egypt while Perseus (and Antiochos) was in Pella or conquering the Crimea.

There was a Greek rebellion which affected the whole south of Greece that I stirred up. Antiochos was in the Agoge at this time, and I didn't let Spart rebel naturally. The Makedonian governors of Greece fled all to Sparte, were they gathered to subdue the rebels. So Perseus could consider Antiochos loyal.

You might see that I'm seeking for arguments pro Antiochos...

Here is a map of the Arche Makedonia in 214BC, the year 104 of Alexandros IV.

Dark blue: Satrapy
Light blue: Semiautonomous Satrapy
White: Allied State

**Reno Melitensis** · 08-30-2008, 21:45

I say go for Antiochos, his profile show that he can be a much better ruler than his brother. Superb administrator, Mathematic expert and completed Spartan Agoge are enough to make him your next Basileus.

Cheers

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 08-30-2008, 23:18

I'd probably choose Antiochos because of his name, but the other guy seems better...

**Centurio Nixalsverdrus** · 08-31-2008, 02:35

Antiochos just scored a heroic victory at some Euphrat crossing. The game thanked me with a ctd. I cheated... and Perseus, in dear love to the good boy, made him his successor. Euphamios is putting up watchtowers in Lybia at the moment, so I guess until he gets to know the news, it'll be too late.

Edit: Polyperchon and Euphamios will be enemies of the king forever I guess, I will give them a nice governor charge, somewhere far away.

**Lysimachos** · 08-31-2008, 07:44

Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus

Antiochos just scored a heroic victory at some Euphrat crossing. The game thanked me with a ctd. I cheated... and Perseus, in dear love to the good boy, made him his successor. Euphamios is putting up watchtowers in Lybia at the moment, so I guess until he gets to know the news, it'll be too late.

Edit: Polyperchon and Euphamios will be enemies of the king forever I guess, I will give them a nice governor charge, somewhere far away.

Euphamios is unselfish and loyal, so i think he will arrange himself with it, as long as it is for the good of the kingdom, but Polyperchon should be a different thing...

**Maion Maroneios** · 08-31-2008, 11:08

Nice progress you got there, Centurio! How did you manage to make these maps, by the way? I am in 248BC (as Makedonia) and have managed to unify Hellas, as well as capture Megale Hellas and almost all of Sikelia.

In the name of the true Basileus ton Basileon, I truthfully wish you spread Hellenism anew and put even Megas Alexandros' conquests to shame!
Maion