Hard Drugs should be legal

[ICantSpellDawg]

Ever heard of pholcodiene or any of the drousy cough syrups? Their active ingredient are all opiates.

Don't they serve a therapeutic purpose?

How would you suggest we implement this great new idea?

[rory_20_uk]

Most of my patients state they don't serve a theraputic purpose. I think that the cough syrup market is already well established.

Selling drugs? Sell from a pharmacy to those over the age of 18. Each comes complete with large warnings of dangers, what to do / not to do and a sterile, pre filled syringe if appropriate.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Most of my patients state they don't serve a theraputic purpose. I think that the cough syrup market is already well established.

Selling drugs? Sell from a pharmacy to those over the age of 18. Each comes complete with large warnings of dangers, what to do / not to do and a sterile, pre filled syringe if appropriate.

Over the counter without a prescription?

[rory_20_uk]

Yup, just like the other killers cigarettes and alcohol.

I've been to the local supermarket at christmas time to get a job lot of presents. I went to the counter with probably over 6 litres of spirits, a 16 pack of paracetamol and a 16 pack of Ibuprofen. The potentially lethal dose of spirits didn't raise an eyebrow, but I wasn't allowed both the tablets... Even though there is no interaction.

If you make getting safe drugs difficult, people won't do it. Sure, people will still overdose, but unlike the current situation where the dose could be 2mg to 20mg, it is a fixed dose.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Yup, just like the other killers cigarettes and alcohol.

I've been to the local supermarket at christmas time to get a job lot of presents. I went to the counter with probably over 6 litres of spirits, a 16 pack of paracetamol and a 16 pack of Ibuprofen. The potentially lethal dose of spirits didn't raise an eyebrow, but I wasn't allowed both the tablets... Even though there is no interaction.

If you make getting safe drugs difficult, people won't do it. Sure, people will still overdose, but unlike the current situation where the dose could be 2mg to 20mg, it is a fixed dose.

Ok, you guys do it first and we'll see if the rate of drug usage drops. Then, maybe, we will introduce similar measures. If you can't get your quasi-socialist mother state to give in to your ideas, why do you think we would try it?

[rory_20_uk]

Who is trying to get drug usage down? Not me. I'm interested in getting crime down, and forcing the industry off the criminal black market and on to the taxable legitimate market.

[Fragony]

Who is trying to get drug usage down? Not me. I'm interested in getting crime down, and forcing the industry off the criminal black market and on to the taxable legitimate market.

You can't make the black market dissapear because any control or government will make it more expensive, and some like it cheap, especially the hooked nothing will change black market will provide cheaper. There is simply no solution here it can't be solved.

[ajaxfetish]

If you can't get your quasi-socialist mother state to give in to your ideas, why do you think we would try it?

Because instead of having a quasi-socialist mother state to take care of us, we in America believe in personal freedoms. The war on drugs is much like many states' wars on firearms. We don't need it here.

Ajax

[Tribesman]

Good point. Looked at from another angle, the "llegal tobacco market" isn't actually that at all, but rather a "huge luxery tax-avoidance market". The product is the same whether bought from Los Angles or Moldovia; the difference is the tax-based price (and who gets the profits).

Well its wider than that , you have the common smuggling which is the tax avoidance , thats a damn good earner , I know of quite a few trafficers who switched from narcotics to cigarettes , and ordinary people who gave up work to get into this easy money .
Then you have the fake brands , which is fraud but also comes into the tax avoidance bracket .
Then you have the outright fakes which are so full of crap that they couldn't even be classed as a legal version of that dangerous and addictive substance , which is fraud , tax avoidance and a whole other pile of crimes thrown in for good measure .
It just illustrates that even when legalised you cannot get rid of the criminal involvement where there is a potential for easy cash , its a bit like the prescription drugs issue with illegal copies and outright fake versions being sold all over the world .

[Fragony]

Over the counter without a prescription?

For cough syrope? Can't get rid of the urge and there is always an alternative, like cough syrope. Cocaine and heroin should be seen as currency, that is the highest priority instead of the idiots that get hooked on it, white gold.