Expeditionary Forces

**Celtic_Punk** · 09-01-2008, 05:46

oh i know the irony in that :P but i asked them to join me when i landed the army, and they told me it was an insult... Sparta does not take their kindness being thrown in their face kindly...

hey i didnt know about the eclipse though. funny how being a little bit more level headed could have saved the Athenian fleet and possibly changed the course of the war in the Peloponnese. Would it have made much of a difference? Athens would still had a fleet to be reckoned with, but Sparta knew from the changes syracuse made to the rams (made them much heavier so they could ram the athenians headon) how to defeat the Athenian navy. The war would have gone on much longer, but I think the result would either have been the same, or a much more destructive defeat of Athens.

what do you think?

I took Antioch this morning, and now the Ptollies are marching towards Sardis, and are just outside the city walls, and are also marching 2 small armies to Antioch... Are they preparing for war?

**Dutchhoplite** · 09-01-2008, 07:33

Not only the naval part of the syracusan campaign was badly handled. Even before their naval defeats they were in deep trouble on land (but then they still had a chance to escape).

**Chris_** · 09-01-2008, 09:07

I've never really tried the whole expeditionary force thing. I mean, I've wanted to and planned to, but then something always happens that takes priority, which I then have to use my expeditionary force for. Next campaign will be as KH or Epeiros, so I'll probably do it then.

Originally Posted by Celtic_Punk

I took Antioch this morning, and now the Ptollies are marching towards Sardis, and are just outside the city walls, and are also marching 2 small armies to Antioch... Are they preparing for war?

If theres one thing I've learnt, it's that the Ptolies are always preparing for war.

**Celtic_Punk** · 09-01-2008, 11:38

lol these bastards are probably going to back stab me, i think im going to do what i usually do, im going to sack the settlement (sorry if you were born in Syria) and leave, though this time im going to hand the settlement over to Ptolly, and the army i think ill just keep in Syria to help with the war effort. Maybe that will give Ptolemy what he wants and hell back off and pull out of my holdings in Turkey...

If there's one thing I've learned your allies dont like you taking key settlements in their wars.

But I've notice this is a really good tactic if you are A- running low on cash B- not really running low on cash but need a quick boost to fund either a campaign or your economy (doing this is really good for raising the funds for mines or dockyards) OR C- you have a new general who needs to make a reputation for himself.

The KH are really good at this kind of strategy aswell, hoplites are very good at capturing walls (dont bother with anyhting but stonewalled settlements, they are the only ones with good money in em) and are even better at pushing into the square through narrow streets, once your in the settlement all you need is 2 decently experienced classical hoplite regiments and you'll push em back eventually, just make sure your stretched wall to wall and you're on guard mode.

**softiron** · 09-01-2008, 14:48

Originally Posted by Celtic_Punk

...But I've notice this is a really good tactic if you are A- running low on cash B- not really running low on cash but need a quick boost to fund either a campaign or your economy (doing this is really good for raising the funds for mines or dockyards) OR C- you have a new general who needs to make a reputation for himself.

I must admit that this is most efficient and only strategy playing as Saka..
besiege, kill the defenders, slaughter the civilians, rob all what's not attached to the ground, raze all buildings which can be razed and leave the city unprotected...

Right now my hordes are galloping on half of the Seleukid country razing all they can (I don't use infantry units at all) making my rather wealthy ruler...

**Celtic_Punk** · 09-01-2008, 17:19

how the hell do you get inside their cities then? if you cant man rams or ladders or what not?

**Chris_** · 09-01-2008, 17:21

Originally Posted by Celtic_Punk

how the hell do you get inside their cities then? if you cant man rams or ladders or what not?

He could use spies to open the gates, wait for the enemy to sally and defeat them, or attack an army adjacent to the city, which will bring in the garrison as reinforcements. When they die, just walk into the city.

**Celtic_Punk** · 09-01-2008, 17:29

hmmm good call i wasn't really thinking :P im so used to taking the fight to the city, and pushing through to the square.

I gotta lay off the hoplites for a while