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    Oh lets face it, Newton theories have fallen from their pedestals.
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    Vive la relativity
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    They still stand up in the Backroom where every action has a reaction.
    Our genes maybe in the basement but it does not stop us chosing our point of view from the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    They still stand up in the Backroom where every action has a reaction.
    Gravity doesn't exist.

    Judging from the Backroom, however, force does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moros View Post
    Oh lets face it, Newton theories have fallen from their pedestals.
    Not really, for the vast majority of everyday problems they are still perfectly good. Relativity and quantum mechanics only kick in at the extremes.

    Of course, you can calculate the velocity of an apple falling from a tree using General Relativity, but I would not recommend it.

    Incidentally, any particular reason for the tribute, Raz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poor Bloody Infantry View Post
    Not really, for the vast majority of everyday problems they are still perfectly good. Relativity and quantum mechanics only kick in at the extremes.

    Of course, you can calculate the velocity of an apple falling from a tree using General Relativity, but I would not recommend it.

    Incidentally, any particular reason for the tribute, Raz?
    Well if his theories would have been that wrong that you could calculate the speed of an Apple falling to the ground, well he bloody wouldn't earn this. But let's face it wether we can use it or not doesn't mean wether it's true or not. And Of course not all of his theories were really wrong. And it's not that Einstein's are. We all know only Rick Astely knows the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moros View Post
    But let's face it wether we can use it or not doesn't mean wether it's true or not.
    Ah, but is any scientific theory ever really "the truth" of how the universe works? Relativity and Quantum Mechanics are both themselves approximations which do not give the whole picture. And if we do find a GUT, how will we know if it is really the true picture? That the "real" theory isn't actually something more complicated, but which we will never be able to distinguish from the simplified theory?

    We all know only Rick Astely knows the truth.
    Amen to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moros View Post
    Oh lets face it, Newton theories have fallen from their pedestals.
    Actually Moros I thought it was a rather good joke. That was why I played on with the reaction joke.

    Now Gravity only seems not to exist in the Backroom because of the excess of hot air floating up from the political debates. Gravitas definitely still exists in the form of Banquo's Ghost and KukriKhan
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    Ah yes, I get it now.

    Please forgive my overly literal interpretation, I wouldn't want to get in the way of a good physics joke.

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    Either way, only Einstein's equations work when physics starts to get interesting; talking with regards to black holes and the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Either way, only Einstein's equations work when physics starts to get interesting; talking with regards to black holes and the like.
    If you go for great quantities yes. But if you're going subatomic scale well, then Einstein gets messy.

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    Newton makes Einstein look like an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Geezer View Post
    Newton makes Einstein look like an idiot.
    and your posts make me wonder about you..

    Newton's laws aren't outdated for smaller problems, that is very much true. but Einstein's theory can explain the universe's quirks more accurately, especially on a larger scale.. If it weren't for his theory, our satelites wouldn't work properly, as it is proven that without the recalibration of the satelite clocks and meters* for relativity, for example, the GPS satelites would be dozens of yards off; thanks to him, most are under 20ft in error, even less. if it were false, we wouldn't see pictures of 1 star duplicated 4 times round another star**, nor would black holes exist (they do now, don't they?)

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