Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 33

Thread: Why are steroids illegal?

  1. #1
    Old Town Road Senior Member Strike For The South's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Between Louis' sheets
    Posts
    10,369

    Default Why are steroids illegal?

    I'll tell you. Propaganda, people are force fed myths about these drugs. I find it odd that women and even men can take estrogen but god forbid men take testosterone. Its all rather silly when people spout the same information they hear on espn and cnn and take it as gospel. I mean god forbid you look it up yourself.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

  2. #2
    Kanto Kanrei Member Marshal Murat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Eye of the Hurricane (FL)
    Posts
    3,372

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Because the anabolic steroids give richer athletes an edge over poorer (or more honorable) athletes. Competitions are held with the intent that two athletes (or more) can compete on a level playing field and to find out who is better. With anabolic steroids, two athletes can train the same amount, but the richer on can cheat his way to victory.
    "Nietzsche is dead" - God

    "I agree, although I support China I support anyone discovering things for Science and humanity." - lenin96

    Re: Pursuit of happiness
    Have you just been dumped?

    I ask because it's usually something like that which causes outbursts like this, needless to say I dissagree completely.

  3. #3
    Part-Time Polemic Senior Member ICantSpellDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    U.S.
    Posts
    7,237

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    They aren't illegal. I take 5mg a day of prednisone legally with a prescription.
    Last edited by ICantSpellDawg; 08-31-2008 at 19:38.
    "That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
    -Eric "George Orwell" Blair

    "If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
    (Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, 1861).
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

  4. #4
    Old Town Road Senior Member Strike For The South's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Between Louis' sheets
    Posts
    10,369

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Murat View Post
    Because the anabolic steroids give richer athletes an edge over poorer (or more honorable) athletes. Competitions are held with the intent that two athletes (or more) can compete on a level playing field and to find out who is better. With anabolic steroids, two athletes can train the same amount, but the richer on can cheat his way to victory.
    What about training facilities? What about people who dont compete in any sort of sport? Who just wish to change there body? What about the fact steroids in and of themselves give no advantage to the person taking them.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

  5. #5
    Darkside Medic Senior Member rory_20_uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Taplow, UK
    Posts
    8,690
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Anabolic steroids aren't great news. But then neither is 10 pints of strong brew.
    Anabolic steroids can cause liver damage, infertility and aggressive behaviour. But then so can 10 pints of strong brew.
    Etc etc etc

    Sports competitions are completely separate issue. They can have whatever rules they want.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
    If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
    The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill

  6. #6
    Kanto Kanrei Member Marshal Murat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Eye of the Hurricane (FL)
    Posts
    3,372

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Excuse me, I just naturally assumed this was about steroids in sports.

    Otherwise, they are fine if you want to use them.
    "Nietzsche is dead" - God

    "I agree, although I support China I support anyone discovering things for Science and humanity." - lenin96

    Re: Pursuit of happiness
    Have you just been dumped?

    I ask because it's usually something like that which causes outbursts like this, needless to say I dissagree completely.

  7. #7
    Darkside Medic Senior Member rory_20_uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Taplow, UK
    Posts
    8,690
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Maybe I'm wrong and it is in a sport context. If so I apologise.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
    If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
    The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill

  8. #8
    Chieftain of the Pudding Race Member Evil_Maniac From Mars's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    6,407

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Are they even illegal, or do you just need a prescription?

  9. #9
    Part-Time Polemic Senior Member ICantSpellDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    U.S.
    Posts
    7,237

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    Are they even illegal, or do you just need a prescription?
    You need a prescription for steroids in general, but they are available for therapeutic use. If you get caught with paxil without a prescription you will be in the same trouble as if they found an androgen. Never mind that reality - SFTS wants steroids - he should have them without any regulation at all.
    Last edited by ICantSpellDawg; 09-01-2008 at 01:26.
    "That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
    -Eric "George Orwell" Blair

    "If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
    (Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, 1861).
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

  10. #10
    Old Town Road Senior Member Strike For The South's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Between Louis' sheets
    Posts
    10,369

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    You need a prescription for steroids in general, but they are available for therapeutic use. If you get caught with paxil without a prescription you will be in the same trouble as if they found an androgen. Never mind that reality - SFTS wants steroids - he should have them without any regulation at all.
    I never said I wanted steroids nor did I say no regulation
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

  11. #11
    White Panther (Legalize Weed!) Member AlexanderSextus's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    THIS! IS! JERSEY!
    Posts
    613

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    i dont know why they're illegal, but anything thats gonna make ur willy smaller should be illegal.
    Do you hate Drug Cartels? Do You believe that the Drug War is basically a failure? Do you think that if we Legalized the Cannabis market, that use rates would drop, we could put age limits on cannabis, tax it, and other wise regulate it? Join The ORG Marijuana Policy Project!

    In American politics, similar to British politics, we have a choice between being shot in our left testicle or the right testicle. Both parties advocate pissing on the little guys, only in different ways and to a different little guy.

  12. #12
    Old Town Road Senior Member Strike For The South's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Between Louis' sheets
    Posts
    10,369

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexanderSextus View Post
    i dont know why they're illegal, but anything thats gonna make ur willy smaller should be illegal.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

  13. #13
    Senior Member Senior Member naut's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    9,103

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    I may be wrong (probably), but doesn't adding testosterone through steroids cause your body to not produce as much of it's own?
    #Hillary4prism

    BD:TW

    Some piously affirm: "The truth is such and such. I know! I see!"
    And hold that everything depends upon having the “right” religion.
    But when one really knows, one has no need of religion. - Mahavyuha Sutra

    Freedom necessarily involves risk. - Alan Watts

  14. #14
    Hope guides me Senior Member Hosakawa Tito's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Western New Yuck
    Posts
    7,914

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    I have no idea, but perhaps one should observe and heed the warning of Lyle Alzado.
    "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." *Jim Elliot*

  15. #15
    Old Town Road Senior Member Strike For The South's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Between Louis' sheets
    Posts
    10,369

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Lyle Alzado had a brian tumor. Could've happened to anyone. I love how the one man every champions as being the ultimate victim of steroids really was just a victim of bad luck. If "they all were doing it" Why have we not seen more of these debilitating tumors in former NFL players?
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

  16. #16
    Master of useless knowledge Senior Member Kitten Shooting Champion, Eskiv Champion Ironside's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    4,902

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rythmic View Post
    I may be wrong (probably), but doesn't adding testosterone through steroids cause your body to not produce as much of it's own?
    Why do you think long term users gets infertile?
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

    Project PYRRHO, Specimen 46, Vat 7
    Activity Recorded M.Y. 2302.22467
    TERMINATION OF SPECIMEN ADVISED

  17. #17
    Formerly: SwedishFish Member KarlXII's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    San Diego, California, United States. Malmö/Gothenburg, Sweden. Cities of my ancestors and my favorite places to go!
    Posts
    1,496

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    [Name here] died of AIDs. Could've happened to anyone. I love how the one man every champions as being the ultimate victim of AIDs really was just a victim of bad luck. If "they were all suffering from it" Why have we not seen more of these deaths in former gay communities?
    HOW ABOUT 'DEM VIKINGS
    -Martok

  18. #18
    Poll Smoker Senior Member CountArach's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    9,029

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    As TuffStuff said, they aren't illegal. I took some when I was younger as part of my asthma medication (I used to have really bad asthma... was hospitalised a couple of times). For general use I am unsure, but I know you can get very similar things over-the-counter down here.
    Last edited by CountArach; 09-01-2008 at 09:51.
    Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
    Quote Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
    Nothing established by violence and maintained by force, nothing that degrades humanity and is based on contempt for human personality, can endure.

  19. #19
    Darkside Medic Senior Member rory_20_uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Taplow, UK
    Posts
    8,690
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    There are several types of steriod: mineralocorticoids, glucocorticoids, androgenic and oestrogenic steroids to name but a few. The pill is two sorts and are as available as smarties. cortisol is also widely available. I thought the discussion was on the androgenic / anabolic ones.

    Last edited by rory_20_uk; 09-01-2008 at 15:41.
    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
    If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
    The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill

  20. #20
    Member Member Productivity's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Ulsan, South Korea
    Posts
    1,185

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    I personally don't think having athletes die at the top of mountains with a cocktail of drugs coursing through their veins is good for sport, the athlete or the spectators.

    If you don't restrict doping, that's what you'll get because it will come down to a race to see who can take the most drugs and survive in an effort to adheive the best time ever.

  21. #21
    Darkside Medic Senior Member rory_20_uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Taplow, UK
    Posts
    8,690
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Then ban them for events. There's a time and a place for things. Alcohol is legal, but I doubt you'd want your thoracic surgeon drunk when he's got your chest open.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
    If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
    The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill

  22. #22
    Hope guides me Senior Member Hosakawa Tito's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2000
    Location
    Western New Yuck
    Posts
    7,914

    Exclamation Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Lyle Alzado had a brian tumor. Could've happened to anyone. I love how the one man every champions as being the ultimate victim of steroids really was just a victim of bad luck. If "they all were doing it" Why have we not seen more of these debilitating tumors in former NFL players?
    Alzado realized himself what the ramifications of "self-medicating" with these type substances had done to him, albeit to late. Not just physical changes, but psychological ones also. Could the abuse of these drugs taken purely for performance enhancement have triggered his cancer? Perhaps...perhaps not, drugs do affect individuals differently so unless there's a health related reason for taking them why take the chance. Especially when one with no real medical knowledge decides to self-medicate, and human nature being what it is figures that dose X works fine so dose 4X would be even better.

    Alzado is the best known poster-child for the dangers of using these substances, but he certainly isn't the only one. Check out the premature deaths of Professional wrestlers that may also be attributed to abusing these substances. Where there's smoke there's fire....
    "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." *Jim Elliot*

  23. #23
    Texan Member BigTex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Arlington, Texas, United States of America.
    Posts
    1,187

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I'll tell you. Propaganda, people are force fed myths about these drugs. I find it odd that women and even men can take estrogen but god forbid men take testosterone. Its all rather silly when people spout the same information they hear on espn and cnn and take it as gospel. I mean god forbid you look it up yourself.
    Completely agree, I've always found it funny that we pump our teen girls full of synthetic estrogen. But once the topic comes to synthetic testosterone, or testosterone hormone promoters people suddenly see it as so bad. Banning them from events is one thing, but why ban the guy who wants to look bigger, purely aestheticly, from taking a few milligrams of d-bol.

    i dont know why they're illegal, but anything thats gonna make ur willy smaller should be illegal.
    They don't cause your willy to shrink. Synthetic testosterone causes the decreased production of natural testosterone, or in some cases the complete stop of it, in the testies. The lack of testosterone production can lead to the testies shrinking, though. Which, yes can lead to sterility or very near to it, especially if started at a young age.

    cortisol is also widely available
    Evil...
    Wine is a bit different, as I am sure even kids will like it.
    BigTex
    "Hilary Clinton is the devil"
    ~Texas proverb

  24. #24

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    If one is bulking up to look good (pointless and shallow IMO but that's another matter), then you shouldn't need steroids because you can get muscly enough with hard work alone.

    If it's for competition, then it's banned for obvious reasons.

    Steroids can only bring you closer to the image posted above by Hosa, and here's a secret:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    It ain't pretty.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    He looks like an alien.
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Seriously.

  25. #25
    The Black Senior Member Papewaio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    15,677

    Cool Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Of course the Governator hasn't had to have any surgery because of using steroids.

    Nor have any elite athletes died of heart problems at a relatively young age...
    Our genes maybe in the basement but it does not stop us chosing our point of view from the top.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
    Pape for global overlord!!
    Quote Originally Posted by English assassin
    Squid sources report that scientists taste "sort of like chicken"
    Quote Originally Posted by frogbeastegg View Post
    The rest is either as average as advertised or, in the case of the missionary, disappointing.

  26. #26

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    The only reasons to take steroids:

    1) medical (already legal)
    2) to cheat at sports
    3) to fix some kind of anti-anorexic mental issue

  27. #27
    Darkside Medic Senior Member rory_20_uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Taplow, UK
    Posts
    8,690
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    The only reasons to take steroids:

    1) medical (already legal)
    2) to cheat at sports
    3) to fix some kind of anti-anorexic mental issue
    It's not cheating at sports if use is allowed by all. In the Olympics they are banned so then it's cheating.

    The mental issue would be on the lines of body dysmorphic disorder which is different to anorexia: people always see themselves as underdeveloped / fat but unlike anorexics they want to be more "buff".

    People drink to get over stress, smoke to be more comfortable in a social environment. I don't see the problem in people taking the stuff as long as they are: adults, informed and not known to be mentally ill.

    An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
    Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
    "If you can't trust the local kleptocrat whom you installed by force and prop up with billions of annual dollars, who can you trust?" Lemur
    If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.
    The best argument against democracy is a five minute talk with the average voter. Winston Churchill

  28. #28
    Deranged rock ape Member Quirinus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Malaysia
    Posts
    982

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    But what about protein shakes then? Should it be banned too because it gives an edge to the athlete who consumes it regularly? Should taking ginseng extracts or coffee before examinations be considered cheating as well?
    WARNING! This baseline signature should never appear on screen!

  29. #29
    Master Procrastinator Member TevashSzat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    University of Pennsylvania
    Posts
    2,367

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quirinus View Post
    But what about protein shakes then? Should it be banned too because it gives an edge to the athlete who consumes it regularly? Should taking ginseng extracts or coffee before examinations be considered cheating as well?
    Well those are naturally available while steroids are generally synthetic (watch somone correct me on this)
    "I do not know what I may appear to the world; but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me." - Issac Newton

  30. #30
    Texan Member BigTex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Arlington, Texas, United States of America.
    Posts
    1,187

    Default Re: Why are steroids illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by TevashSzat View Post
    Well those are naturally available while steroids are generally synthetic (watch somone correct me on this)
    Prohormones, or natural animal test gorilla testosterone for example.
    Wine is a bit different, as I am sure even kids will like it.
    BigTex
    "Hilary Clinton is the devil"
    ~Texas proverb

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO