OOC Thread and Chatroom

[mini]

Thanks Ibn, that’s what I expected, I can be impartial don’t worry. The only thing I can think of is that I have some problem getting screen shots, they always come out to bloated and illegible. But I am definitely honored , and everyone If you really want the job I am ready to step down, I am still new to this and you could probably do a better job.

download Fraps, it's free and makes easy screenshots.

[The Celtic Viking]

Hey Perhaps for "alliance" threads and such, Satrapy's should have their own thread where things pertaining to their satrap can be discussed openly between his aids.

I've been wondering why this haven't been done already. If you want to help out, make a picture that clearly shows what land it owns as well.

[TinCow]

Cultured Drizzt fan will be made Forum Leader for the WotB forum. Ibn-Khaldun will remain Forum Leader as well, but Warmaster Horus will be removed. As Ibn-Khaldun is only stepping down as GM temporarily, I still consider him the leader for this game and thus in the event any future disagreements, Ibn will continue to have the final say.

This could take a day or two to implement, so please be patient.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ok.. I got message from TinCow and soon CDF have all the powers to moderate this forum and this game.

Good luck to all of you. If some big problems will occur then I try to help you if I'm online.

[Incitatus]

I was just looking at the Memphis situation, and it seems that the forces in Alexandria would be able to relieve the city. The ptolemies don't have that many units. And it will be about three more turns before I will get there with my army. Not that I'm complaining, but it would be nice if I didn't have to march the length of the Nile too many times before we kill the ptolemies.

[Βελισάριος]

Just leave Hierax in Alexandreia, please.
He still hasn't learned anything... the idiot.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

actual he has learned a few things, hmmmm I think he gained one trait this turn not sure what it was, might want to check him in the save. sorry I forgot to mention it, really busy at the moment, should be writing up an essay right now.

[Celtic_Punk]

I killed those buggers... Inictus, alexandros should send me a messenger if his scouts spot any ptolly armies near heading towards memphis...

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

and so it begins....

(ibn can I make this into an event? I think its big enough! )
soooo..... emergency council session to find A new chancellor........ , did anyone not see this coming?

[everyone]

@ CDF: We haven't stated our capital (presumably it is Babylon, yes?), and I don't think we can have our own ranks yet, since we're still rebels, and not independent rulers.
and yes, this rebellion is going to be rather exciting

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

true, its just there for referense (we have 12 turns to go), and yeah our capitol is babylon. I will put that on there.


I wonder which royal army is going to hit us first?

[Celtic_Punk]

lol see this coming? you buggers are the first of many revolts.

[Iskander 3.1]

Alright, seceding on my first turn!

[Celtic_Punk]

LET US FINISH WITH PTOLEMY YOU BASTARDS!

damnit you buggers pick the worst times...

[The Celtic Viking]

Treacherous bastards. Have you no honour?!

Oh, and yeah, everyone is right: you're not independent rulers yet, you're just rebels, which beyond what he says means you can't call yourselves "Kingdom of the Crescent" yet. Your land is simply "rebel realm".

... and you can't recruit or build anything. Bwahahahaha!

[everyone]

and how is the time that rebels can't build/recruit stuff calculated? perhaps if Ibn is here, he might explain how it's calculated, inless he already told CDF.

[The Celtic Viking]

It's the declarer's IG influence. That's CDf's character who has 0 influence, so that's 8 turns. Hah!

By the way, have you actually captured the settlements you claim?

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

actually, we have a general in all the cities we claim, so yes.
and TCV is right, but apparently the time is 12 turns now.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

and I just realized you have to change the capitol now! thats going to go over REAL WELL with the cities in the far west and far east, (public orders already low, I can feel the ramifications of this are going to be huge)

and TCV, I dont need any recruitment or constructions to take you down! I learned a few tricks as chancellor, including. stuff you cities full of enough soldiers to take out a royal army and basileus in one shot! (fine, we are just "Rebel Realm", make me waste all the effort I put into that thread......)

ohh and in the council I was expecting more impotent rage, whats wrong TCV saving it for when your armies dead!

[Incitatus]

Something tells me that rage wouldn't go over well with everyone. It would be too good of an excuse... And aside from moving the capital, where does the council actually take place? Presumably in the capital, so maybe it should be moved?

[Celtic_Punk]

takes place in antioch. I suggest we don't move the captiol till they like 6 turns or something. Gives us a chance to try and take it back.



dont worry TCV cunobelinus will probably stand with you for awhile still. You really havent been a tyrant... yet.

[navarro951]

the whole thing is ridiculous as far has Sarpedons power hungry. the "rebel" side has no concept of the word King or Tyrant or what the Arche itself was. We live in a bureaucracy under a King, most of the time...a God King. So to say our voice isn't being heard is exactly right, we are all simply advisers and minions to the Basileus. We accept our place in royalty, middle class, or lower class and we do what is best for the Arche as well as personal gain. When i say we i mean of course our avatars. So anyway, i just think the whole thing is a tad anti-roleplay like.

edit: dont mistake the AS for a democracy of any sort, nor a republic.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

yeah but it was either this or have absolutely nothing happen. honestly I could not think of what else to do (Patrokles is loyal and unselfish, so what the heck was I supposed to have his reasoning be?). I was bored and this is the result! , maybe it only makes sense to me... honestly I dont really know....

[navarro951]

yeah but it was either this or have absolutely nothing happen. honestly I could not think of what else to do (Patrokles is loyal and unselfish, so what the heck was I supposed to have his reasoning be?). I was bored and this is the result! , maybe it only makes sense to me... honestly I dont really know....

ya...

[Celtic_Punk]

"there was a dream that was once the Arche Selukeia... It shall be realized. These were the wishes of a dying man" *thump*

[The Celtic Viking]

Lol! But the dream just happened to be of a monarchy, and I didn't kill my father!

... which reminds me of something I've wanted to incorporate ever since Ibn made me his heir: an assassination system. The problem is I don't know how to make it work. Perhaps we can take a look at the RPGs (no, not rocket propelled grenades, you warmongering bastards!) and go with a die roll of some sort.

Like, you send a PM to the GM telling him who you want attempt to assassinate. The GM then rolls two die and if it succeeds, the target dies. If it doesn't succeeds, he rolls one dice (or two, but I suggest one) to see if the assassin reveals who sent him.

If that system is adopted, we just need to decide how likely a roll should be to succeed. If we do it with two die for the first and one die for the second as I proposed, the possible outcomes would be these:

Roll 1: 2-12
Roll 2: 1-6

I'm thinking in the first roll we should normally have 2-8 mean the assassination fails. If my probability calculation is correct (please, challenge me on that!), it should be about a 36% chance of success. Or we could have 2-9 mean it fails, making it a 27% chance of success.

For the second roll, perhaps we have it like 1-2 means he gets away/dies before talking, 3-4 means the GM can decide whether he dies/gets away or supplies false information, and 5-6 mean he reveals the truth. Again, probability...

No Information: 33-66%
False Information: 0-33%
True Information: 33%

(The precise probability for NI and FI depends on the GM at a case-to-case level.)

The victim of the attempt would not know the actual result of that second roll, so he wouldn't know whether he could trust the information he got (if any) or not.

If the assassination attempt fails, only the victim shall receive the information (if any). He can then decide to make it public, to keep it secret, or only tell a select few - and he can of course choose to lie about it completely. For example, he can say it was revealed to him that X did it even though the assassin escaped.

We can also have it so that IG traits that increase or lower personal security matter, if we can figure out a good and balanced way to implement that. Perhaps have like a fixed sum like a character that has 3 or higher overall personal security score ("PSS") mean an attempt to assassinate him would have the 27% chance of success (2-9 = fail), a "neutral" PSS (where the PSS is between -2 and 2) have a 36% chance of success (2-8 = fail), and a -3 PSS or lower would have a 46% chance of success (2-7 = fail).

I hope I have explained it sufficiently. What are your thoughts about this? Do you have a better system, or do you have an opinion on mine? I will suggest it in this Council Session if we can come up with a good way to do it (or this way is accepted). I also think that this is something that even the rebels should be allowed to vote on, even though the rules forbid it.

[Βελισάριος]

I rather like the idea. Although you do realise this means that now (or as soon as you implement this) someone is going to try and assasinate you, right?

[everyone]

or he might assassinate one of us rebels...

[The Celtic Viking]

Of course. I want it in because it adds another political aspect of the game, and since I missed it when I wasn't the king, I'm not going to be hypocritical and rob you guys of that as well.

However, I think we should have a limit on how often you can do it, and add extra protection to the Basileus (no, this really isn't self-serving ), the Kleronomos Basileios and the satraps, as they would have a tighter security for them. Perhaps the PSS is enough for the B and KB, but satraps don't get any for it, right? They should have some addition then, but it should be lesser than both that of the B and KB.

IIRC in LotR there was an assassination system, right? How did they do it? I remember something like that vaguely, from a poll that I think limited so that you couldn't try to assassinate someone you were actively fighting (that is, were at war against). Perhaps we should have it like that as well.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

I am cool with it, sounds intresting.
and guys is my rebellion that illogical? I would like to know, cause I dont want to seem cheap. I just felt that trying to justify it would be better than outright just saying I wanted power (or OOC to just shake things up, we were all talking about rebellions ande it looked like no one else was going to take advantage of it)