Official 2008-09 NFL thread

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Gah, once again my points prediction is almost spot on...missed the team though. Congrats sfts.

[seireikhaan]

Folks, don't forget we're got a Thursday game this week, so don't forget to put your picks in earlier.

[Ramses II CP]

Dante Hall is out in Oakland (Finally):

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...-next?MSNHPHMA

Javon Walker might be next. We've been trying 'old fashioned' offensive systems for awhile in Oakland, maybe it's time to try some old fashioned team building. Pick a coach, hire a GM, and give them four years to make a team without selling draft picks out from under them for loud mouthed malcontents. Adding one or two talented disreputable players to an otherwise solid team can work, especially since it's in the Raider's blood, but loading a team with no leadership and no faith in their coach with that type is unforgiveable and bound for disaster. I stand by my assertion that this Oakland team had almost the same talent as the Chargers this year, they just didn't have any way to coordinate it.

Now, somebody stop the %&$^#&% bleeding before we become the new era Bengals/Lions of the league! (Sorry Cincy/Detroit fans, but you know it's true)

[Sasaki Kojiro]

No worries, we're only doing bad this year because palmer is out. With him back in and if in the offseason we can pick up a good running back and a good offensive line and a good defense and a stronger secondary and a few key special teams players we'd have a decent team!

[Martok]

No worries, we're only doing bad this year because palmer is out. With him back in and if in the offseason we can pick up a good running back and a good offensive line and a good defense and a stronger secondary and a few key special teams players we'd have a decent team!

Still, I don't think the Bengals have as far to go as the Lions. I can only imagine the suffering Detroit fans have gone through these last two decades....

[Decker]

Dante Hall is out in Oakland (Finally):

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...-next?MSNHPHMA

Javon Walker might be next. We've been trying 'old fashioned' offensive systems for awhile in Oakland, maybe it's time to try some old fashioned team building. Pick a coach, hire a GM, and give them four years to make a team without selling draft picks out from under them for loud mouthed malcontents. Adding one or two talented disreputable players to an otherwise solid team can work, especially since it's in the Raider's blood, but loading a team with no leadership and no faith in their coach with that type is unforgiveable and bound for disaster. I stand by my assertion that this Oakland team had almost the same talent as the Chargers this year, they just didn't have any way to coordinate it.

Now, somebody stop the %&$^#&% bleeding before we become the new era Bengals/Lions of the league! (Sorry Cincy/Detroit fans, but you know it's true)

Hall is gone!? And well Walker... I'm still uncertain about him. Half the time I think Russell is our biggest offensive problem. I'm almost not ready to go to Sunday's game They are soooo disenchanting this year. And last year Kiffin looked to have improved the team! What happened?! Davis is what happened. The media is what happened. It seems like no one is criticizing the Raiders enough to get the ball rolling! ARG

And well I think we are as worse as them. Look at how many games we could have won but threw away. It's pathetic and last weeks showing was down right atrocious.

[Martok]

The Raiders will continue to stumble until Davis sells the team or dies, whichever comes first. I realized that when he moved the team back to Oakland.