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    Default Re: The greatest human tragedy of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by Subedei View Post
    I guess everything has two sides.

    Assuming you are living in a first world country I would state YOU have access to the medical care, job/money etc..
    Well, think about the 70-90% of world population who don´t have the fortune you/ i have? Is it b/c they are all lazy? I don't think so.

    Industrialization in it's current state has negative effects like robbery of commodities from 3rd world countries, unequal distribution of wealth, negative effects of the climate change esp. in 3rd world countires (lack of water, destruction of crops....) etc.

    It has a lot of good sides, esp. for someone like me living in the EU. Go ask sombody in the Congo....

    The positive effects faciliated by mankinds progress sure do affect a lot of people...but the lot of people become more and more and more....We have to think about a way to deal with this without further destruction of our own planet. This is one of our biggest challenges atm.

    "preaching mode off"

    One of the reasons, actually prime reason, why 3rd world countries are 3rd world countries is because they aren't industrialized countries, but pretty much agrarian...

    The reasons why aren't they industrialized is another issue, complex and deserving of a thread of its own...

    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    When we were under a nobility we were still in a nation-state, though in a different form to what we consider it today. As for religion - it is because of nation-states that it has achieved enough power to cause people to die for it.
    That's debatable, but okay, let's say that it is so. Let me rephrase - It was so much better when we were killing each other for our respective tribes and chiefs?
    Last edited by Sarmatian; 09-12-2008 at 21:07.

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