The greatest human tragedy of all time

[Hax]

Organized religion.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Organized unreligion
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[AlexanderSextus]

i think the african slave trade was the greatest tragedy...is it true that more people died on those slave ships from either starvation or disease (and also because some of the ships sank) than in the holocaust??? I remember hearing that somewhere...

Oh, and i looked at that link about the Female Genital Mutilation and i noticed that the type 1 (clitorodotomy) doesnt seem that inhumane at all... in fact, it seemed to be the exact parallel to male circumcision, and seems that it would infact be quite hygenic...because it is not the same as the horrible inhumane REMOVAL of the clitoris which is otherwise frikkin sickening.

[Strike For The South]

i think the african slave trade was the greatest tragedy...is it true that more people died on those slave ships from either starvation or disease (and also because some of the ships sank) than in the holocaust??? I remember hearing that somewhere...
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Do you know how the Africans got there in the first place?

[Sarmatian]

Do you know how the Africans got there in the first place?

Where? In Africa?

[Conqueror]

I think he means the ships.

[Tristuskhan]

I think he means the ships.

I think he means the ships, yes, but I miss his point... Does the fact that slaves were caught during internal african wars mean that's no more an human tragedy? Thinking that way, US civil war was not a tragedy either, since it was americans killing americans, no?

Well, probably SFTS's sunday Bourbon makes him feel like whipped when one talks about whites harming blacks. A thing that definitely never happened.

Back on the topic: slave trade's numbers are very hard to figure, since the slaves often originated from deep Africa. Coastal kingdoms, knowing they could make much profit from slaves, became specialised in raiding their more continental neighbours. So you have: people dead from the wars themselves, people dying during the trip to the seashore, those dying in the transit camps and those who died during the ocean's crossing. Only a small ratio survived long enough to be sold on the New World's markets. And that lasted four centuries.

[The Wizard]

There has never been a Communist state. I'm just going to throw it out there...

That's because there can't be a communist state in the first place. The term is an oxymoron.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh, and i looked at that link about the Female Genital Mutilation and i noticed that the type 1 (clitorodotomy) doesnt seem that inhumane at all... in fact, it seemed to be the exact parallel to male circumcision, and seems that it would infact be quite hygenic...because it is not the same as the horrible inhumane REMOVAL of the clitoris which is otherwise frikkin sickening.

In my opinion,

1. The practice is barbaric, done by religious elders, not doctors, does not involve pain medication, and is totally unnecessary.

2. Hygiene is possible without removing body parts.

3. The practice is done on underage, unconsenting children against their will, for the purpose of removing sexual desire.

4. It's a horrible, traumatic event that is worse than rape.

[KarlXII]

i think the african slave trade was the greatest tragedy...is it true that more people died on those slave ships from either starvation or disease (and also because some of the ships sank) than in the holocaust??? I remember hearing that somewhere...

I wouldn't doubt it. However, I wouldn't necessarily count it as the Greatest human tragedy.

[Narhon]

The election of George W. Bush

[Europe]

I’m somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned this, “the Patriarchy society”.
I seriously believe things would be a lot less violent if every leader in the world was a woman. Now not every woman is a saint, but in general things wouldn’t result in conflict so easily I believe.

(I’m not a woman)

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I’m somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned this, “the Patriarchy society”.
I seriously believe things would be a lot less violent if every leader in the world was a woman. Now not every woman is a saint, but in general things wouldn’t result in conflict so easily I believe.

If you're playing on stereotypes, then there would also be many more spies, assassinations, targeted strikes, and so on.

[Kralizec]

I’m somewhat surprised that no one has mentioned this, “the Patriarchy society”.
I seriously believe things would be a lot less violent if every leader in the world was a woman. Now not every woman is a saint, but in general things wouldn’t result in conflict so easily I believe.

(I’m not a woman)

Women in general may be less agressive then men, but I doubt the same applies for government leaders. Thatcher, Golda Meir, Indira Ghandi....

[Askthepizzaguy]

I actually believe that gender is less relevant than the state of maturity, open-mindedness, wisdom, self-awareness, and experience of a person when choosing a leader.

Neither men nor women have an inherent advantage in such areas.

[CountArach]

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Organized unreligion
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Yes, damn that Atheist lobby!

[The Wizard]

The (perversion of the) state.