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Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Lester B. Pearson said it best. Canadians do not need to be liberated.
Quebec may be primarily French speaking, but it has not only a significant English minority, but no reason to break away from Canada. In addition to this, Quebecois have been given referenda in the past on the issue, and each time have rejected it. Quebecois culture is protected by federal law to an almost dictatorial level when it comes to the English and English-speaking Quebecois living in Quebec. Quebec has as much reason to seperate from Canada as Bavaria does from Germany. None.
You support rebellious areas that seek independance, yet not support non violent seccession groups Lester B. Pearson said it best. Canadians do not need to be liberated.
Quebec may be primarily French speaking, but it has not only a significant English minority, but no reason to break away from Canada. In addition to this, Quebecois have been given referenda in the past on the issue, and each time have rejected it. Quebecois culture is protected by federal law to an almost dictatorial level when it comes to the English and English-speaking Quebecois living in Quebec. Quebec has as much reason to seperate from Canada as Bavaria does from Germany. None.
?Originally Posted by SwedishFish:
You support rebellious areas that seek independance, yet not support non violent seccession groups?
I support the specific South Ossetian case for a very specific reason. Quebecois are hardly oppressed even remotely.You support rebellious areas that seek independance, yet not support non violent seccession groups
?Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
I support the specific South Ossetian case for a very specific reason. Quebecois are hardly oppressed even remotely.
Oppressed. Laughable at best.I support the specific South Ossetian case for a very specific reason. Quebecois are hardly oppressed even remotely.
Free Quebec.
Free Tibet!
Free Quebec!
Free Quebec!
Originally Posted by SwedishFish:
Oppressed. Laughable at best.
Free Quebec.
Quebec doesn't need freedom. Canadian governments don't just not bother them, but actually bow and scrape to their every desire. Not only that, but Quebec has been granted two referendums, and Quebec voted to stay with Canada. I'm willing to bet that the Bloc would lose votes in Quebec if they actually pursued the seperatist agenda.Oppressed. Laughable at best.
Free Quebec.
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Quebec doesn't need freedom. Canadian governments don't just not bother them, but actually bow and scrape to their every desire. Not only that, but Quebec has been granted two referendums, and Quebec voted to stay with Canada. I'm willing to bet that the Bloc would lose votes in Quebec if they actually pursued the seperatist agenda.
Free Quebec. Free Tibet.Quebec doesn't need freedom. Canadian governments don't just not bother them, but actually bow and scrape to their every desire. Not only that, but Quebec has been granted two referendums, and Quebec voted to stay with Canada. I'm willing to bet that the Bloc would lose votes in Quebec if they actually pursued the seperatist agenda.
Conservatives appear to have an eighteen point lead over the Liberals.
Originally Posted by SwedishFish:
Free Quebec. Free Tibet.
Free Quebec. Free Tibet.
Originally Posted by SwedishFish:
Canadians may not need to be liberated, but Quebecois do.
Quebecois are Canadians.Canadians may not need to be liberated, but Quebecois do.
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Quebecois are Canadians.
Hopefully not for long.Quebecois are Canadians.
Originally Posted by SwedishFish:
Hopefully not for long.
Please tell me you're being sarcastic. The majority of Quebecois, even, do not want independence from Canada.Hopefully not for long.
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Please tell me you're being sarcastic. The majority of Quebecois, even, do not want independence from Canada.
"the motion to decide whether Quebec should secede from Canada was defeated by an razor-thin margin: 50.58% "No" to 49.42% "Yes"."Please tell me you're being sarcastic. The majority of Quebecois, even, do not want independence from Canada.
Originally Posted by SwedishFish:
"the motion to decide whether Quebec should secede from Canada was defeated by an razor-thin margin: 50.58% "No" to 49.42% "Yes"."
They defeated it nonetheless, and the recent trend I believe has shifted towards the No. "the motion to decide whether Quebec should secede from Canada was defeated by an razor-thin margin: 50.58% "No" to 49.42% "Yes"."
Really, read some of Canada's laws on French - they're so unbelievably biased towards Quebec I can't think why anyone except the most brainwashed person could believe that Quebecois have any reason to split from Canada - and they're certainly not oppressed.
Why spend so much time on Quebec when they can simply let it go?
Originally Posted by SwedishFish:
Why spend so much time on Quebec when they can simply let it go?
Letting Quebec go seperates Canada from the Atlantic provinces, would slice off a massive portion of the Canadian population, and force Canada to cede control over part of the St. Lawrence Seaway. Not to mention that the majority of Quebecois are against seperation and that Quebec was one of the first provinces to form the Canadian confederation. Important things, like education, are also largely the responsibility of the provinces in Canada - like Quebec.Why spend so much time on Quebec when they can simply let it go?
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Free California!
ok...go ahead...take them...pleaseFree California!
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Free California!
Sure. Free Quebec first.Free California!
Originally Posted by SwedishFish:
Sure. Free Quebec first.
Is Bavaria oppressed?Sure. Free Quebec first.
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
Is Bavaria oppressed?
If Bavaria wishes to leave the Bundesrepublik, by all means.Is Bavaria oppressed?
Originally Posted by SwedishFish:
If Bavaria wishes to leave the Bundesrepublik, by all means.
So Bavaria is oppressed if most Bavarians are against seperating, but a vocal minority proposes Bavarian seperation? Looking around, I can safely say that Bavaria both has an independence movement (not very strong these days, fortunately) and is also not oppressed.If Bavaria wishes to leave the Bundesrepublik, by all means.
Anyways, Quebec doesn't wish to leave Canada, nor does it have any reason to.
SwedishFish just knows that with Quebec out of Canada, the remainder will quickly be absorbed as the 51st state. The whole point of keeping Quebec Canadian is so the English crown can lord it over some Frenchies. 
Oh my my. 
Such consternation about the fate of Quebec. Clearly since he speaks with such conviction there must be a deep issue there. Not to worry though. I have solution!
First we grant US (or Sealand) citizenship to all Quebecois who yearn for freedom. Given the oppressed state and tyrannical conditions under which they live I suggest that compensation be granted. This will help to both alleviate their dreadful situation and convince them of the sincerity of our cause. Then, as the cries for freedom escalate, we emulate our fine furry and hibernating friends and invade the
place! Does Quebec have an important oil pipeline which needs our protection by our ‘peacekeepers’? 
Such consternation about the fate of Quebec. Clearly since he speaks with such conviction there must be a deep issue there. Not to worry though. I have solution!
First we grant US (or Sealand) citizenship to all Quebecois who yearn for freedom. Given the oppressed state and tyrannical conditions under which they live I suggest that compensation be granted. This will help to both alleviate their dreadful situation and convince them of the sincerity of our cause. Then, as the cries for freedom escalate, we emulate our fine furry and hibernating friends and invade the
place! Does Quebec have an important oil pipeline which needs our protection by our ‘peacekeepers’? No but they do have something you need as much as oil. Fresh water and hydro-power. 
Free Québec! Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat:
Brittany to the Bretons!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vive_le...peech#Reaction
Quebec freed itself in the quiet revolution.
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
It's funny that you should mention the Bretons. The Bretons ('British') are Celtic British, foreign invaders of French soil. Just like the Anglo Canadians are foreign invaders of French Canada. Brittany to the Bretons!
Yet, we tolerate the Celtic British invaders living on our French soil. We even tolerate the Anglo British invaders on our Canadian soil.
All that we ask for in return, is a tiny space to live in peace. Just the shores of the St. Lawrence. That's all. And what do we get? Scorn and derision. Does British imperialism not stop until it suffocates the entire world?
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