Canadian Federal Election

[Strike For The South]

It's funny that you should mention the Bretons. The Bretons ('British') are Celtic British, foreign invaders of French soil. Just like the Anglo Canadians are foreign invaders of French Canada.

Yet, we tolerate the Celtic British invaders living on our French soil. We even tolerate the Anglo British invaders on our Canadian soil.
All that we ask for in return, is a tiny space to live in peace. Just the shores of the St. Lawrence. That's all. And what do we get? Scorn and derision. Does British imperialism not stop until it suffocates the entire world?

And this is why I love you

[Banquo's Ghost]

I would be grateful if members post to the topic rather than spamming one-liners with flags and bunting.

Thank you kindly.

[JR-]

Free Quebec. Free Tibet.

this might actually be an interesting discussion without the endless spamming....................

[Goofball]

this might actually be an interesting discussion without the endless spamming....................

Agreed. SwedishFish, I don't know what you're after in this thread, but your constribution has been at best childish, and at worst trolling.

As a Canadian, I am extremely offended that you would compare the our relationshiop with one of our provinces with China's brutal and bloody treatment of Tibet.

And your comment about how "razor thin" the margin was in the 1995 referendum further demonstrates your ignorance. Here is how the Bloc worded the question to Quebeckers:

"Do you agree that Québec should become sovereign after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new economic and political partnership within the scope of the bill respecting the future of Québec and of the agreement signed on June 12, 1995?"

They made it soud like they would still be under Canada's warm, safe, protective wing, but without any need to contribute back.

In polls where the question was simply: "Do you think Quebec should separate from Canada?" the reponses were overwhelmingly "Non."

Quebeckers were woefully mislead by the sovereigntists in the weeks leading up to the referendum. Some examples of things that declared "yes" voters believed would take place even if they separated:

1) All Canadian troops and bases in Quebec would stay and become the Quebec military
2) Quebec would still be allowed to use Canadian $$ as their currency
3) Quebec would continue to receive transfer payments from the Canadian government

There were a number of other equally ridiculous assumptions, but those are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

At any rate, I'm finished talking to you about this, because you obviously have absolutely no knowledge of Canadian politics, and even less of Quebec politics.

About the only ones outside of a small minority of Quebeckers who think separation would be a good idea are the Newfies, because then it would only be a half an hour drive to Toronto...

[Hosakawa Tito]

The best thing about the Canadian political process is that it's over and done with in a matter of weeks. Instead of this 1 to 1 1/2 years of mudslinging campaigning that we in the US have to endure.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

About the only ones outside of a small minority of Quebeckers who think separation would be a good idea are the Newfies, because then it would only be a half an hour drive to Toronto...

After reading through that, I almost expected to find a Newfie joke at the end, and I certainly wasn't disappointed.

[Meneldil]

Since I don't think anyone remember the original point of this topic, I'll just say that Canada is a weird country that surely as a problem with its neighbour (namely, the US).

Canadian people spend their time bashing the US, bragging about how their healthcare system is great, how they're different (better) from the average american. Yet, to any sane european, the canadian healthcare system is a joke, and Joe the canadian is just copy/pasted from Ben the american.

And they're a bunch of freaking nationalists, it's almost scary. What the hell with all these canadian flags everywhere ?

Oh, and the anti-french racism is kind of boring; wether it is aimed at quebecers or at franco-ontarians people (here I was thinking I would get laid all the time just by saying "Hey babe, I'm french". Next time I'll go to the US ;-( )

So, I vote for the Bloc Quebecois. Vive le Québec Libre, Vive la France, Vive la Bière de qualité, Vive les petites brunes française !

[Crazed Rabbit]

And they're a bunch of freaking nationalists, it's almost scary. What the hell with all these canadian flags everywhere ?

Over here in North America, having a flag doesn't mean you're a nationalist. Maybe you could learn something of our culture before dumping on it do to your lack of knowledge.

CR

[Louis VI the Fat]

I'm glad to hear you had such a...swell time in Canada, Meneldil.

Over here in North America, having a flag doesn't mean you're a nationalist.

B..but..those Canadian flags are often a statement that says: 'I am not from the US - I'm better than my rightfully hated southern neighbours'.
Especially those flags on their backpacks, that no Canadian in Europe ever seems to go without. Sure enough, I've never been able to tell the difference between a Canadian and an American. But do they need to dump on their southern neighbours like this?
Nothing makes a Canadian happier than people playing along with it. 'Oh...you're Canadian! For a minute there, I thought you were a ........Cool then. Beer's on me!'

[lars573]

Since I don't think anyone remember the original point of this topic, I'll just say that Canada is a weird country that surely as a problem with its neighbour (namely, the US).

Any different than how French and Germans go at these days? My brother has been to both countries and has seen it first hand.

Canadian people spend their time bashing the US, bragging about how their healthcare system is great, how they're different (better) from the average american. Yet, to any sane european, the canadian healthcare system is a joke, and Joe the canadian is just copy/pasted from Ben the american.

Canada is about 30-50 times larger by sqaure km than any european nation. And 32 million people stonrg. No way our health care system could deliver like France or Germany, or Sweden. No way, not ever. We are about on par with Britain.

And they're a bunch of freaking nationalists, it's almost scary. What the hell with all these canadian flags everywhere ?

That's light nationalism really. My parents house has a flag pole in the front yard.

Oh, and the anti-french racism is kind of boring; wether it is aimed at quebecers or at franco-ontarians people (here I was thinking I would get laid all the time just by saying "Hey babe, I'm french". Next time I'll go to the US ;-( )

People in Ontario think they are better than everyone. Don't take it personally, they are decendants of New Englanders who didn't want to be americans. But on another note I've even met a French-Canadian who bitches about certain franquophone cultural idioms

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Canada is about 30-50 times larger by sqaure km than any european nation. And 32 million people stonrg. No way our health care system could deliver like France or Germany, or Sweden. No way, not ever. We are about on par with Britain.

Want to guess the German population? Besides, around 90% of the Canadian population is concentrated near the US border.

That's light nationalism really. My parents house has a flag pole in the front yard.

Yep, displaying a flag just means you're proud of your country. I display a German flag, so what? Bashing Americans, on the other hand, is just, well, our similies can say it better than I:

[Crazed Rabbit]

B..but..those Canadian flags are often a statement that says: 'I am not from the US - I'm better than my rightfully hated southern neighbours'.

No, those people are just jerks.

Besides, around 90% of the Canadian population is concentrated near the US border.

Ready to invade.

CR

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Ready to invade.

Time for a pre-empetive strike.

[lars573]

Want to guess the German population? Besides, around 90% of the Canadian population is concentrated near the US border.

Germany is like 83 million and some change. And more like 80%. But it's spread out over 5000 km. My point was that europe with it's 200 person per square km (on average) can deliver more bang for buck than we can on just about any utility or public service. Callig it a joke is complete misunderstanding of the whole situation.

Yep, displaying a flag just means you're proud of your country. I display a German flag, so what? Bashing Americans, on the other hand, is just, well, our similies can say it better than I:

People here display flags other than the national and provincial. Some use the large formats as poormans curtians. See a lot of rebel stars and bars, USSR/PRC, and German flags that way.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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This whole thing with Canadians wanting to avoid confusion with Yankees reminds me a very similar case in a much smaller scale. Natives of Bayburt - TR, which is demographically, folklorically and especially with the accent of Turkish spoken being virtually a subset of the larger Erzurum - TR, dread being confused with Erzurumers.
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[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Germany is like 83 million and some change. And more like 80%. But it's spread out over 5000 km. My point was that europe with it's 200 person per square km (on average) can deliver more bang for buck than we can on just about any utility or public service. Callig it a joke is complete misunderstanding of the whole situation.

We also have more people to serve in those hospitals, but the Canadian healthcare system isn't that bad.

People here display flags other than the national and provincial. Some use the large formats as poormans curtians. See a lot of rebel stars and bars, USSR/PRC, and German flags that way.

I don't think I've ever seen the curtains like that, but interesting.

[Goofball]

Since I don't think anyone remember the original point of this topic, I'll just say that Canada is a weird country that surely as a problem with its neighbour (namely, the US).

Canadian people spend their time bashing the US, bragging about how their healthcare system is great, how they're different (better) from the average american. Yet, to any sane european, the canadian healthcare system is a joke, and Joe the canadian is just copy/pasted from Ben the american.

And they're a bunch of freaking nationalists, it's almost scary. What the hell with all these canadian flags everywhere ?

Oh, and the anti-french racism is kind of boring; wether it is aimed at quebecers or at franco-ontarians people (here I was thinking I would get laid all the time just by saying "Hey babe, I'm french". Next time I'll go to the US ;-( )

So, I vote for the Bloc Quebecois. Vive le Québec Libre, Vive la France, Vive la Bière de qualité, Vive les petites brunes française !

Sorry, but what is "anti-French racism?" Are you implying that franco-phones are actually a different race than we English-speakers?

At any rate, in Canada, it is the francophones in general and Quebeckers in particular that practice exclusion and xenophobia. The best example? In Ontario, the largest anglophone province, all public signs must be in English and French. In Quebec, it is against the law for a store owner to have an English sign in his own store if the English sign is larger than the French sign.

Another one that I used to love was that the rule used to be that to work for the federal government, you had to be bilingual, and one of your languages had to be French. So it was quite possible for an anglophone to call a government office and get somebody on the phone who spoke Franch and Cantonese, but not English. I believe they have since changed this policy though, thankfully.

Canada as a whole has two official languages: French and English. Quebec specifically passed a law stating that French is the only official language of Quebec.

But sure, we anglophones are racist...

Give your head a shake and learn a little bit about a topic before posting.

[lars573]

Well you see there is only one officially bilingual province. And it isn't Quebec, BC, or New Scotland. It's New Brunswick. All the others are either English (8) or French (1) but not both. In NB signs are given in French and English. And the text of both langages is of equal size. I was just there for grand mothers funeral. It was odd seeing rue *name* road on all the signs.

Now on English anti-francophone rascim it does exist. A great uncle of mine is a part of a group. Who's agend can be called such.

[Kralizec]

I picked the Conservatives, because I figured that they'd be the best at oppressing the frenchies.